Principle of Verticality

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Because, while the terms are linked in the book, they aren't linked in the minds of most players and coaches. When they argue a player wasn't set, verticality is rarely an issue anyway because the player was moving sideways or backwards (usually).

I have never heard a coach argue a defender was moving when he simply jumped vertically.

Nor I.

My point is, I don't believe this is a misunderstood rule. I believe that some don't know this principle exists at all (hence word "ignorance"). In other words, they believe you can't draw a charge if you're in the air.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Nor I.

My point is, I don't believe this is a misunderstood rule. I believe that some don't know this principle exists at all (hence word "ignorance"). In other words, they believe you can't draw a charge if you're in the air.

I disagree. I've heard more complaints of "wasn't he straight up" than "he was moving" on these plays. They understand it, but only choose to play ignorant when it suits them.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I disagree. I've heard more complaints of "wasn't he straight up" than "he was moving" on these plays. They understand it, but only choose to play ignorant when it suits them.

That could be. I wonder if they know that "straight up" doesn't require both feet on the floor at the time of contact, though.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've heard more complaints of "wasn't he straight up" than "he was moving" on these plays.

Funny how they always appear to be "straight up" after the contact.

[zeedonk]

Originally Posted by bainsey

In other words, they believe you can't draw a charge if you're in the air.

Called one of these earlier in the year. A1 driving to the cup, B1 comes over and established LGP, then, inexplicably, jumps straight up in the air as A1 tries to run through the middle of his chest. Going the other way- Entire A team coaching staff erupts (all 5 of them). I report PC foul and say to HC, "he had LGP, your guy ran him over" and go opposite. Partner inbounds and after an OOB by the bench winds up warning staff. Nothing further, but I spoke with AC after the game, whom I know pretty well, and says "how the hell can you call a charge on a guy when the defender is in the air?" I reply "veritcality". He says "Oh, OK.... wait- what?" Repeat.

Z

[GoodwillRef]

I think one of the factors contributing to this is that schools are hiring younger and younger coaches these days. We are seeing coaches in their early to mid twenties being hired as varsity head coaches and they are so overwhelmed with everything else about the job they do not have the time to read or understand the rules.

Last year we had a 24 year old girls varsity coach yelling at us from the opening tip...I warned her after 26 seconds...not another word the rest of the game. I thought I was working a 5th grade game they way she was yelling for stuff.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

"how the hell can you call a charge on a guy when the defender is in the air?" I reply "veritcality". He says "Oh, OK.... wait- what?" Repeat.

There it is. This is what I believe to be one of the many myths we battle.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Is this the must misunderstood rule in the book? It seems that all coach see is the contact...not who caused it...just the contact...not if the defender had LGP and good verticality...just the contact.

Those same coaches are the ones who will tell their defender jumped straight up and down or was just standing there with their hands up.