Should I be upset?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The game started at 5:30PM and he arrived at 6PM. You think he deserves full pay? He didn't live up to his contract, did he?

Most of these places would not even offer to give money to the official that worked alone in the same situation. So yes, I would be a little upset.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

OTOH, I filled in for a quarter at a school when a JV official pulled a hammy and they didn't give me an extra penny. I didn't expect it either, but it would've been a nice surprise.

I was a varsity official at a site and showed up for a prelim game early and I was asked to help out a few years ago. I ran to the locker room and got ready in which I came in about 3 minutes into the second half. When I got the check about a week later, I was paid a prorated amount for working a quarter and a half. I was ticked and called and complained. Not because I worked a quarter and a half, but because I did not have to do it. I could have said no and worried about working the varsity game. I will never do that again as if I am going to help, you could have paid me more than what they did to show some appreciation. Just pay the guys especially when someone shows up. Let the officials split up the money or do something for them.

I had a similar issue this year and I took the guys I was with out to dinner. Not everyone showing up is deliberate. Heck if you are going to be that worried about it, have the damn check ready when we play the game and not send it later.

Peace

[RobbyinTN]

I would have been ashamed to have taken anything for the first game. IMHO you didn't earn anything that game since you put the game/other official in a bind by not being there. There is no way the game could have flowed as smoothly with one official as it would with two so I would consider that game fee lost.

When you saw you were running late, you didn't call the school or better yet, your partner? I always take my partner's number and the school's and/or GA's number in case something happens on the way.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

I would have been ashamed to have taken anything for the first game. IMHO you didn't earn anything that game since you put the game/other official in a bind by not being there. There is no way the game could have flowed as smoothly with one official as it would with two so I would consider that game fee lost.

When you saw you were running late, you didn't call the school or better yet, your partner? I always take my partner's number and the school's and/or GA's number in case something happens on the way.

Our Assoc. if you miss the tip off you are fined an amount equal to the game fee..considered a NO SHOW!

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

I would have been ashamed to have taken anything for the first game. IMHO you didn't earn anything that game since you put the game/other official in a bind by not being there. There is no way the game could have flowed as smoothly with one official as it would with two so I would consider that game fee lost.

When you saw you were running late, you didn't call the school or better yet, your partner? I always take my partner's number and the school's and/or GA's number in case something happens on the way.

Yes and yes. Nobody answered at the school and I called my partner and he was in traffic as well. I asked him to let the school know my situation if he got there first.

The AD eventually called me and I told him where I was

[Welpe]

Stuff happens sometimes but the fact is you did not adhere to the terms of your contract. Doesn't make you a bad person or bad official. I think you have no leg to stand on by requesting the missing fees.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Stuff happens sometimes but the fact is you did not adhere to the terms of your contract. Doesn't make you a bad person or bad official. I think you have no leg to stand on by requesting the missing fees.

Just to spark more conversation...stuff happens...like getting hurt during a game. So if I got hurt in the second quarter and wasn't able to finish the game, would I only get half the game check? Technically I didn't fulfill my contract then either.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Just to spark more conversation...stuff happens...like getting hurt during a game. So if I got hurt in the second quarter and wasn't able to finish the game, would I only get half the game check? Technically I didn't fulfill my contract then either.

Why would you expect any more?

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Why would you expect any more?

Well, nine times out of ten injuries are out of our control.

A traffic jam situation could be out of our control, ie an accident on a roadway that radio station traffic reports don't cover.

The school or district was going to pay you the money anyway, you get injured during the first half, and can't finish the game. Not their fault, not yours. Why should they withhold the money, other than to save a few bucks?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Just to spark more conversation...stuff happens...like getting hurt during a game. So if I got hurt in the second quarter and wasn't able to finish the game, would I only get half the game check? Technically I didn't fulfill my contract then either.

Perhaps. But that wouldn't be something you brought on yourself. That's an accident. Being late is your fault.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Just to spark more conversation...stuff happens...like getting hurt during a game. So if I got hurt in the second quarter and wasn't able to finish the game, would I only get half the game check? Technically I didn't fulfill my contract then either.

When I filled in after a JV ref pulled his hamstring, the guy I replaced offered to send me half his check for working the fourth quarter. Naturally, I declined. Four seasons ago I blew out my knee in the second quarter of a varsity game and they had to call a JV official in to work the rest of the game. I don't remember offering anyone part of my check, but I was in a great deal of pain and ended up in the hospital and simply don't remember how I got paid for that -- and didn't care (the fee at the time was something like $57.50).

It all evens out. But if I missed a half of a game because of traffic, I would have probably apologized again to the AD and told him to please keep the money for the entire first game.

Of course, where I live a game cannot start with less than 2 licensed officials. So here, they'd find a replacement or they'd wait.

[just another ref]

Whether we are speaking quantity or quality, half a game is no game at all. I'm with Rich, you don't owe me anything for the first game. Anything I've got coming, give it to my partner, the one left holding the bag.

[BktBallRef]

Here, it would be up to the school if they want to pay you or not. Either way, you would be fined by the state.

I see no reason for them to pay you for a half you didn't work. You were late, make all the excuses you want, it's still you're fault.