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Illini_Ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:43pm
The game had the situation described in the original post.

I'm not sure how it was handled, but it prompted a question about it to a local veteran official and rules "guru". He thought and thought and finally called our state association. His quandary was what does app. the same time mean.

His answer from them was that there was nothing in the rules or interps to answer that question. The lady there said that she was fine with saying it was "app. the same time" in this situation until the first technical was reported.

That makes this a simultaneous technical. No FTs and the ball at POI which is the FTs for the first personal foul.

I don't necessarily agree and there was no "official" interp given. It was strictly a meeting of the minds on the phone.

I think that you could go with a false double T and back it by rule. I also think that with her explanation you could go with a simultaneous situation.

It's all how you articulate it to the coach really.

Illini_Ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:47pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 727850)
Check your PM over "there" and I sent you the email response.

Peace
Got it. Thanks.

Over "there". That is a good way to describe that place at times.

eyezen Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:52pm
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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref (Post 727853)
The game had the situation described in the original post.
I meant more as a who what when where.

JRutledge Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:53pm
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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref (Post 727855)
Got it. Thanks.

Over "there". That is a good way to describe that place at times.
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This is what I feel like over there sometimes. :D

Peace

Illini_Ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:55pm
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Originally Posted by eyezen (Post 727859)
I meant more as a who what when where.
High school game in Illinois, a few weeks ago.

I can't remember the particular teams.

eyezen Tue Feb 08, 2011 04:58pm
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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref (Post 727864)
High school game in Illinois, a few weeks ago.

I can't remember the particular teams.
fair enough

Illini_Ref Tue Feb 08, 2011 05:00pm
I will say that if I was working with tjones and he made the original foul call, I would probably just agree with B1 and there would be no technical foul!:D

tjones1 Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:01am
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 727850)
Check your PM over "there" and I sent you the email response.

Peace
If you get a chance, would you please send me his response?

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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref (Post 727868)
I will say that if I was working with tjones and he made the original foul call, I would probably just agree with B1 and there would be no technical foul!:D
Ha Ha.... touche! In that case, B1 would probably be right. I would penalize him by making him carry my gear bag.

26 Year Gap Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:22am
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Originally Posted by tjones1 (Post 728078)



Ha Ha.... touche! In that case, B1 would probably be right. I would penalize him by making him carry my gear bag.
That is a pretty stiff penalty considering.


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