Good block?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It has nothing to do with the ball going in the basket. If the shot attempt is altered by the contact, if the player is put at a disadvantage in making the shot attempt, I'll call the foul.

You don't think the contact altered the shot in the OP?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You don't think the contact altered the shot in the OP?

The initial contact was all ball on ball -- a good block. By the time the defender's body makes contact, the ball's heading out of bounds.

[just another ref]

Sounds kinda like a description I heard on tv many years ago. As long as you get the ball, (first) you are entitled to take as much of the player as you want while you're at it.



They were describing what constitutes roughing the kicker.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Sounds kinda like a description I heard on tv many years ago. As long as you get the ball, (first) you are entitled to take as much of the player as you want while you're at it.



They were describing what constitutes roughing the kicker.

That is great, but we are not talking about football. And I never said I would never call a foul on a player that is trying to block a ball. There are a lot of block attempts that are going to have a foul call from me. But when a block is made I am going to consider the player the momentum of the shooter and what the contact with that ball did. There are almost always going to contact on blocked shot attempts. Each of us has to determine how much and the level we work is going to dictate that. Just like it dictates other fouls we call or do not call. Not sure why there are some folks thing we all have to agree on these plays.

Peace

[jeffpea]

imho, good block, incidental contact, ball OOB to black...

the two most exciting plays in basketball are the dunk and the block shot. i'm giving a little extra leeway in this instance because of the nature of this play. additionally, if you think about it - we generally allow a little more contact the closer we get to the basket (that's just a reality of how we officiate the game).

i understand if other officials have a foul on this, but I for one, am not blowing my whistle for a foul.

[jeffpea]

btw, after watching the replay again, the official gives no sign of wanting to call a foul....he's just simply moving to get out of the way of the ball.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

btw, after watching the replay again, the official gives no sign of wanting to call a foul....he's just simply moving to get out of the way of the ball.

It's NBA, remember. That doesn't mean a lot to most of us here. In the other current thread where the guys goes from the 3 point line without a dribble to dunk, the NCAA guys there show no sign of wanting to call a travel, either.

[APG]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It's NBA, remember. That doesn't mean a lot to most of us here. In the other current thread where the guys goes from the 3 point line without a dribble to dunk, the NCAA guys there show no sign of wanting to call a travel, either.

What does it being a play in the NBA have to do with it? I agree with jeffpea's statement and it looks clearly to me he was just trying to get out of the way of the ball. Even if he was thinking about calling a foul, you wouldn't see an NBA official come out with a blocking prelim on this type of play.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

.... if you think about it - we generally allow a little more contact the closer we get to the basket

To each his own. If anything, I would probably allow more contact away from the basket when a ball is deflected out of bounds.