Designated TO area?

[hercload]

Had a first last night. During a TO, coach tells team to stay out because "you don't listen anyway". Do the players and the coach have to stay in the designated TO area or can the players stay out and just the coach is restricted to the area. Looked through the rule book after the game and couldn't find a reference to this situation. BTW, I allowed the players to stay out, while the coach sat on the bench.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by hercload

Had a first last night. During a TO, coach tells team to stay out because "you don't listen anyway". Do the players and the coach have to stay in the designated TO area or can the players stay out and just the coach is restricted to the area. Looked through the rule book after the game and couldn't find a reference to this situation. BTW, I allowed the players to stay out, while the coach sat on the bench.

If he conducts his TO, he must do so within the area. There's nothing that requires him to do so, however. He can send his players out onto the court at any point, as long as they all return at approximately the same time.

[APG]

There's nothing that says the players have to be there if the coach isn't conducting the timeout. Envision the situation where one of the teams, during a timeout, finishes early and wants to resume play early. They'll head to the court early and there's no penalty in doing so.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by hercload

Had a first last night. During a TO, coach tells team to stay out because "you don't listen anyway". Do the players and the coach have to stay in the designated TO area or can the players stay out and just the coach is restricted to the area. Looked through the rule book after the game and couldn't find a reference to this situation. BTW, I allowed the players to stay out, while the coach sat on the bench.

The location of the timeout area is defined in NFHS rule 1-13-3. Just keep 'em all somewhere within that area.

[doubleringer]

Originally Posted by hercload

Had a first last night. During a TO, coach tells team to stay out because "you don't listen anyway". Do the players and the coach have to stay in the designated TO area or can the players stay out and just the coach is restricted to the area. Looked through the rule book after the game and couldn't find a reference to this situation. BTW, I allowed the players to stay out, while the coach sat on the bench.

You handled it just fine. I would do exactly the same thing.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If he conducts his TO, he must do so within the area. There's nothing that requires him to do so, however. He can send his players out onto the court at any point, as long as they all return at approximately the same time.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

There's nothing that says the players have to be there if the coach isn't conducting the timeout. Envision the situation where one of the teams, during a timeout, finishes early and wants to resume play early. They'll head to the court early and there's no penalty in doing so.

Disagree. If what you say were true, the players could be in the other team's timeout area. And I think you'll agree that they can't be there. Since the only distinctions are the indicated timeout areas, the players need to be in them during a timeout whether the timeout is being utilized or not.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Disagree. If what you say were true, the players could be in the other team's timeout area. And I think you'll agree that they can't be there. Since the only distinctions are the indicated timeout areas, the players need to be in them during a timeout whether the timeout is being utilized or not.

I was envisioning the players staying on their half of the court. But you are correct.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Disagree. If what you say were true, the players could be in the other team's timeout area. And I think you'll agree that they can't be there. Since the only distinctions are the indicated timeout areas, the players need to be in them during a timeout whether the timeout is being utilized or not.

So, when Team A is ready to go after 10 seconds of a 60 second timeout, you're going to force them to remain in the TO area? How early is too early?

I'll agree they can't be in the other team's huddle, but that can easily be enforced without forcing them into their defined TO area.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So, when Team A is ready to go after 10 seconds of a 60 second timeout, you're going to force them to remain in the TO area?

Dont trouble trouble...

[Adam]

That's my thought. I'll keep them out of B's huddle, if necessary, but that's as far as I'm going with it.

[just another ref]

5-12-5 says the timeout conference shall be conducted within the confines of the timeout area.

If there is no conference, as far as I'm concerned they can stay out on the court.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If there is no conference, as far as I'm concerned they can stay out on the court.

They can stay out on the court, no matter what. Part of the time-out area is out on the court.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Since the only distinctions are the indicated timeout areas, the players need to be in them during a timeout whether the timeout is being utilized or not.

Rules citation?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

They can stay out on the court, no matter what. Part of the time-out area is out on the court.

True. I should have said that they can stay out on the court in position and ready to resume play. So you agree with me? Did you bump your head this morning or something?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

True. I should have said that they can stay out on the court in position and ready to resume play. So you agree with me?

There's no rule that I know of that says the players must go to their bench area during a TO. I wouldn't let them stand by the other team's huddle though; that's just asking for trouble. There's no specific rule on that either afaik but I'd call that an unsporting act. Warn 'em first. Iirc we had a long thread on that years ago.

Which also brings up the question....

Just before a FT, both the offense and defense usually have a quick strategy huddle. What do you do, if anything, if an opponent decides that he/she would like to join the opposing team's huddle?