"I Touched It Last"

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Gargil

I don't know if you have seen the commercial were the officials in a game call out of bounds off of a certain player, then during a timeout the kid tells his Coach that he touched it last and wants to do the right thing. He then goes and tells the official that he was the last to touch the ball.
Would change your call if this happened to you??

I've seen the commercial and quite frankly, I don't see him touching the ball ... unless the camera had a bad angle.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Gargil

I don't know if you have seen the commercial were the officials in a game call out of bounds off of a certain player, then during a timeout the kid tells his Coach that he touched it last and wants to do the right thing. He then goes and tells the official that he was the last to touch the ball.
Would change your call if this happened to you??

Would you change the call if he told you it went off the opponent?

No. Nice commercial but no.

[bainsey]

I have to wonder if some who say they would never change a call -- under any circumstances -- are motivated by fear that they may lose control.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I have to wonder if some who say they would never change a call -- under any circumstances -- are motivated by fear that they may lose control.

Nope.

[ThatOneRef]

Originally Posted by Gargil

I don't know if you have seen the commercial were the officials in a game call out of bounds off of a certain player, then during a timeout the kid tells his Coach that he touched it last and wants to do the right thing. He then goes and tells the official that he was the last to touch the ball.
Would change your call if this happened to you??

Id give it to the kid, If he wants to be honest and do the right thing, by god, so be it. If only more people were like this in everyday life the world would be so much better...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by ThatOneRef

Id give it to the kid, If he wants to be honest and do the right thing, by god, so be it. If only more people were like this in everyday life the world would be so much better...

But if more players were like this, their teams would lose more often.

Never admit guilt.

[JRutledge]

I would have more respect for a player if they just did not try to contest out of bounds call when they know we got it right the first time.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would have more respect for a player if they just did not try to contest out of bounds call when they know we got it right the first time.

Peace

Agreed.

And even in that video, I can't tell if he touched it or not.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I have to wonder if some who say they would never change a call -- under any circumstances -- are motivated by fear that they may lose control.

Who wrote they would never change a call under any circumstance?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Never admit guilt.

B13U game the other day and I call a foul on W13......and he raises his hand high in the air to show it was on him. Me =

As I report it to the table, I said to the coach, "There's something you don't see much anymore."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by grunewar

He raises his hand high in the air to show it was on him.

... Of The Way We Were.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by grunewar

B13U game the other day and I call a foul on W13......and he raises his hand high in the air to show it was on him. Me =

As I report it to the table, I said to the coach, "There's something you don't see much anymore."

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... Of The Way We Were.

Wasn't that a rule that required such action?

Peace

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Wasn't that a rule that required such action?

Peace

When I played in H.S. our coach required us to. I have no idea if it was a rule, I was a player then and of course had never read a rule book.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Wasn't that a rule that required such action?

Peace

IIRC, fouler raising hand was a valid rule until about 197?. Penalty=tech
Where's MTD, Sr? Either he or Jurassic will chime in with the exact answer.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by justacoach

IIRC, fouler raising hand was a valid rule until about 197?. Penalty=tech

You remember correctly. The hand had to to go straight up..no crooked elbows. And it was an automatic "T" if you wiggled your fingers or waved your hand to show displeasure.

Terrible rule, more trouble than it was ever worth. Universally hated by officials except for a few OOO's. It was put in supposedly to help the scorers because officials weren't communicating #s to them properly. So instead of attacking the real problem...which was reporting mechanics....they put in this dumb alternative.