Tonight may be a GI, GD, GO game

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Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

And I hate to criticize a fellow official on their play calling but the one game I called with my U1, he blew a few obvious calls and we had to correct a few things (such as him lining up for free throws when I had pointed to the floor for inbounding and failure to grant a TO because he thought the HC was out of TOs).

Have you asked yourself what could YOU have done better on those plays?
At some levels, the U1 & U2 may have said that YOU blew the FT sitch.
In addition to pointing to the spot for the ensuing throw-in, did you verbally say "white ball, endline?"

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

The couple of times I have seen my U2, he gave the ball to the wrong team on a AP (and didn't catch it in time to be corrected), called a three second lane violation and the team hadn't gotten into FC status yet and called an intentional foul that most thought was unwarranted). I pass these off as "rookie" mistakes but still hurts the game.

They hired a crew of three, not three individuals!
Did his partners have whistles on the AP sitch? A mere whistle could kill it & give the ball to the correct team.

Did somebody ask him if he wanted to go with an IW on the 3 second sitch?

INTs can be a judgment call...

Officials that know better but do nothing to assist the crew of three are looked at as U99s & they are only hiring Rs (if you know what I mean).

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

Not making excuses for a poor game - just realizing there will be more pressure on me tonight as the R to ensure we have a good game and to watch everything closely. I usually work with the same partners and never have to worry about things like this.

I embrace those opportunities!! Being the R means nothing more than tossing the ball up & making decisions that we all dont agree on. Make your crew feel like they are all Rs. Lead by example, hell, give your toss to the least skilled official & see if that motivates him/her to work harder, be more receptive & become your #1 advocate!

[RobbyinTN]

[QUOTE=tref;725861]Have you asked yourself what could YOU have done better on those plays?
At some levels, the U1 & U2 may have said that YOU blew the FT sitch.
In addition to pointing to the spot for the ensuing throw-in, did you verbally say "white ball, endline?"

Originally Posted by tref

Have you asked yourself what could YOU have done better on those plays?
At some levels, the U1 & U2 may have said that YOU blew the FT sitch.
In addition to pointing to the spot for the ensuing throw-in, did you verbally say "white ball, endline?"

When I have a foul I do tell my partner several things. I first establish eye contact and then if it is shooting I will say something like "white 2-2 is my shooter", if it is to be inbounded I say "white ball at endline and point". My partner always knows what it is we will be doing.

Originally Posted by tref

They hired a crew of three, not three individuals!
Did his partners have whistles on the AP sitch? A mere whistle could kill it & give the ball to the correct team.

Since I wasn't on the floor at the time I am unsure what the other officials were doing but I know he put the ball into play very quickly and thus the officials had very little time to respond.

Originally Posted by tref

Did somebody ask him if he wanted to go with an IW on the 3 second sitch?

INTs can be a judgment call...

Officials that know better but do nothing to assist the crew of three are looked at as U99s & they are only hiring Rs (if you know what I mean).

Again, I wasn't on the floor that game - I can't speak for the other officials but when he called the 3 seconds, the otehr team was given the ball.

Originally Posted by tref

I embrace those opportunities!! Being the R means nothing more than tossing the ball up & making decisions that we all dont agree on. Make your crew feel like they are all Rs. Lead by example, hell, give your toss to the least skilled official & see if that motivates him/her to work harder, be more receptive & become your #1 advocate!

I have been doing this for over 20 years and am the R about 75-80% of the time so it isn't like I don't have experience in what to do with a crew, etc. I also let inexperienced officials take the R role (check books, toss ball, etc) so they can get experience. I call a lot of MS ball so I can work with less experience officials and mentor them. I tend to think I do a pretty good job at it. But, as I am sure others have found, not every official wants any advice as they think they already know it all.

[tref]

Not used to hearing vets speak as you did initially, but...

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

I have been doing this for over 20 years and am the R about 75-80% of the time so it isn't like I don't have experience in what to do with a crew, etc.

Nuff said!

[RobbyinTN]

Originally Posted by tref

Not used to hearing vets speak as you did initially, but...



Nuff said!

It was a statement made tongue in cheek. Just airing some concerns out in this forum. As I said, my only game with U1 didn't go real well and when I said to him at half time "let's ensure we establish good eye contact and inform each other if we will be shooting or inbounding" he got very defensive. I tried to remind him to slow down on reporting so we ensure the table knows what we called. Again, he got defensive. He jsut kept reminding me how long he had been calling ball. At that point I decided to let it go as I didn't want to have to call the rest of the night with a pissed off partner .

The mistakes U2 made are rookie mistakes - we all made them and still make mistakes.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

It was a statement made tongue in cheek. Just airing some concerns out in this forum. As I said, my only game with U1 didn't go real well and when I said to him at half time "let's ensure we establish good eye contact and inform each other if we will be shooting or inbounding" he got very defensive. I tried to remind him to slow down on reporting so we ensure the table knows what we called. Again, he got defensive. He jsut kept reminding me how long he had been calling ball. At that point I decided to let it go as I didn't want to have to call the rest of the night with a pissed off partner .

The mistakes U2 made are rookie mistakes - we all made them and still make mistakes.

So, you're working with Yabut & Costello.

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I heard that! I know how that can be, I am just now learning how to trick my partners into doing what I need them to do.

"I'm not rotating well, what can we do to have better rotations in the 2nd half?"

"I'm doing a terrible job of giving you eye contact, will you help me with this?"

Funny how switching the situation around & putting it on myself doesn't make my partners defensive & keeps them open to admitting their mistakes.