Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

And one more thing, the school who offered to switch to our association if we covered them during the walkout, (this was called stealing, poaching, and a miserable practice, I believe) was with us before switching to their current association last season. That's right. They stole/poached them from us. Even though the crossover turned out not to happen, I'm now told the switch will now take place anyway. I'm also told that the coaches wanted to switch back this season.

Is that the association that's covering the games that are 150 miles from you? The ones that you were going to drive 300 miles round trip to do the other day?

The principals and coaches will always switch back and forth to different associations in order to save a few bucks and maybe get a few breaks (in their minds) in the officiating. And why shouldn't they if they have competing associations willing and eager to stab their fellow officials in the back to gain a few games? Hell, who cares if the games only pay $36; you're getting more of them.

You just don't get it it. The LHSSAA is playing you off against each other and laughing their heads off at you while they're doing so. And until you do get it, you'll be working games for peanuts and kissing azz to do 'em.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Is that the association that's covering the games that are 150 miles from you? The ones that you were going to drive 300 miles round trip to do the other day?

no

The principals and coaches will always switch back and forth to different associations in order to save a few bucks and maybe get a few breaks (in their minds) in the officiating.

You're rattling without knowing what you're talking about now. (imagine that)
They're going to save a few bucks? The game fees are the same. The mileage is the same. The money is the same.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

1)no

2) You're rattling without knowing what you're talking about now. (imagine that)
They're going to save a few bucks? The game fees are the same. The mileage is the same. The money is the same.

1) Got it. You were gonna drive 300 miles the other day to stab a completely different association in the back. How noble of you....and your association.

2) Gee, I know from your past posts that you won't hesitate to throw guys from your own association under the bus. I guess I was rattling on about you probably having no problems doing the same to another association. That clear it up?

Like I said, JAR, you just don't get it it.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That clear it up?

Yeah, that's clear. When called on something you know nothing about, you bluster about something else, which may or may not have any merit.

[Adam]

1. If a pay raise is accepted, the guys who didn't sit out can thank the ones who did.

2. If a pay raise is not accepted, the guys who sat out can thank the ones who didn't.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

1. If a pay raise is accepted, the guys who didn't sit out can thank the ones who did.

2. If a pay raise is not accepted, the guys who sat out can thank the ones who didn't.

Snaqs, I value your opinion, and appreciate your way of presenting it, but I have to disagree. Statements were made that the threat of a walkout changed some votes to the negative. Hard to believe the real thing generated a lot of good will for the cause.

[bisonpitcher]

Here in Oklahoma, we don't have a statewide pay rate. Rates are determined by conference. Smaller schools in rural areas sometimes pay more (if they are not tied to a conference and schedule their own officials). For 5A-6A level schools (6A is our highest classification) in my area, $45 for Varsity games (same crew for B&G). $25 for all sub varsity, including middle school. No travel reimbursement. 3 man crews for all 5A-6A varsity games, 2 man for all sub varsity and B-4A varsity games. You work 4 middle school games, 6 minute quarters (7/8 G/B) for $100. 2 JV games (7 min. quarters) for $50, or 2 Varsity games for $90. We rank pretty low on the totem pole, but $31 for Varsity games?? That's pretty weak.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bisonpitcher

Here in Oklahoma, we don't have a statewide pay rate. Rates are determined by conference. Smaller schools in rural areas sometimes pay more (if they are not tied to a conference and schedule their own officials). For 5A-6A level schools (6A is our highest classification) in my area, $45 for Varsity games (same crew for B&G). $25 for all sub varsity, including middle school. No travel reimbursement. 3 man crews for all 5A-6A varsity games, 2 man for all sub varsity and B-4A varsity games. You work 4 middle school games, 6 minute quarters (7/8 G/B) for $100. 2 JV games (7 min. quarters) for $50, or 2 Varsity games for $90. We rank pretty low on the totem pole, but $31 for Varsity games?? That's pretty weak.

We get travel. Some nights, you make less than I do.

[bisonpitcher]

Originally Posted by just another ref

We get travel. Some nights, you make less than I do.

I will say that I have not gone more than 25 miles to officiate all season, so the travel is kind of a moot point for me.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bisonpitcher

I will say that I have not gone more than 25 miles to officiate all season, so the travel is kind of a moot point for me.

I am unfortunate in that I live at one end of our territory, so I have to travel more than anyone we have, probably. But we have a minimum of $30 travel for the crew, so the least we can get for a varsity doubleheader is $87 each 2 man, which is about all we do.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bisonpitcher

I will say that I have not gone more than 25 miles to officiate all season, so the travel is kind of a moot point for me.

Fifty miles one way back home. Was only twenty five miles from work (Don't tell the IRS). No mileage, but the $88.28 check (one game) seems fair.