Verbal Abuse - how much is too much?

[BballRookie]

Ok, you guys will be shaking your heads, but to answer the question on the call that was screwed up here is what happened: I'm Trail, and end of the game team A is down by 10 points but has been fighting back all half. They still think they can win this game. Team A's point guard is all over team B's point guard. Team B's point guard tries to create space but the amount of space created wasn't much. Here is where it got bad: on that play I wasn't counting 5 seconds.. so when the ball went out of bounds, team A screamed for a 5 second call that should have been made, which was probably warranted. I confered with my partner at the baseline and explained the situation. He said let's call the 5 second and of course team B went crazy (thus the ref became unglued, said things he would have t'd someone up for). Team B said it wasn't a reviewable call, which could be true as well, but we had discussed it, made that call, and had to stick to our guns.

Both teams are full of former players, so even the best calls all night were challenged. This was a slightly more competitive mens league with former college players, coaches and refs on the court going at each other.

Another rookie question: How can I get a copy of the High School bball rules? I live in Idaho and can't find it online.

I just moved here from CA and would like to join the association if my job permits. So for now I ref city league and kids.

Thanks for the imput guys, I appreciate it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BballRookie

Ok, you guys will be shaking your heads, but to answer the question on the call that was screwed up here is what happened: I'm Trail, and end of the game team A is down by 10 points but has been fighting back all half. They still think they can win this game. Team A's point guard is all over team B's point guard. Team B's point guard tries to create space but the amount of space created wasn't much. Here is where it got bad: on that play I wasn't counting 5 seconds.. so when the ball went out of bounds, team A screamed for a 5 second call that should have been made, which was probably warranted. I confered with my partner at the baseline and explained the situation. He said let's call the 5 second and of course team B went crazy (thus the ref became unglued, said things he would have t'd someone up for). Team B said it wasn't a reviewable call, which could be true as well, but we had discussed it, made that call, and had to stick to our guns.

Both teams are full of former players, so even the best calls all night were challenged. This was a slightly more competitive mens league with former college players, coaches and refs on the court going at each other.

Another rookie question: How can I get a copy of the High School bball rules? I live in Idaho and can't find it online.

I just moved here from CA and would like to join the association if my job permits. So for now I ref city league and kids.

Thanks for the imput guys, I appreciate it.

1) It's not really a changeable call.

2) You can order from NFHS, or join and review it on-line.