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Basketball Officiating Mechanics ... - Google Books

This not only explains it...but, has illustrations.

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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 08:26am
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Used when the team A violates in their FC -- so B will inbound in their BC "going long".

Old L/New T moves across the court to the inbound spot and BUMPS the Old T/New L who now RUNS down court.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 09:26am
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No "long" changes - with one official running the entire length of the court. You bump your partner and to avoid the long change.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 06:12pm
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No "long" changes, with one official running the entire length of the court. You bump your partner and to avoid the long change.
There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2011, 08:17pm
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There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
Is that an exception in Connecticut? This sounds like a classic bump and run situation. And IMO, it looks better than having the old lead run the length of the court.
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There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
So, when the trail calls a travel on his side of the court, or OOB, or illegal dribble, you let the old lead run down and become the new lead? Wow, Rome sure is a weird place.
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So, when the trail calls a travel on his side of the court, or OOB, or illegal dribble, you let the old lead run down and become the new lead? Wow, Rome sure is a weird place.
Only in A's backcourt.
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There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
Only in "Rec" ball, and you're working with a new guy who doesn't know any better.

In Federation 2 or 3 person, and NCAA, it's a classic "bump 'n run" situation. As Trail official calling the violation, you should be looking for the old lead official coming toward you, toss the ball in his/her direction, and immediately head for the endline to become the new lead official.
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There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
Classic bump-and-run in my world.
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Classic bump-and-run in my world.
I think you're all misreading Billy's post.

The play is a violation IN the backcourt on the trail's sideline...and it was a violation on the offensive team (backcourt violation...but could have easily been a travel or any other violation). The trail will administer that throwin, on the sideline, with the old lead running coast to coast. It is only offensive violations on the trail's side in the frontcourt that causes a bump-n-run.
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I think you're all misreading Billy's post.

The play is a violation IN the backcourt on the trail's sideline...and it was a violation on the offensive team (backcourt violation...but could have easily been a travel or any other violation). The trail will administer that throwin, on the sideline, with the old lead running coast to coast. It is only offensive violations on the trail's side in the frontcourt that causes a bump-n-run.
That's still a classic bump-and-run in my world.
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There are exceptions. Trail has backcourt call, which obviously occurs in the backcourt, on his side of the basket line. That's his line, and the violation is near his line, so he will administer the throwin and become the new trail. The old lead will run the length of the court and become the new lead.
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This sounds like a classic bump and run situation.
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So, when the trail calls a travel on his side of the court, or OOB, or illegal dribble, you let the old lead run down and become the new lead?
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Only in A's backcourt.
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In Federation 2 person it's a classic "bump 'n run" situation. As Trail official calling the violation, you should be looking for the old lead official coming toward you, toss the ball in his/her direction, and immediately head for the endline to become the new lead official.
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I think you're all misreading Billy's post. The play is a violation IN the backcourt on the trail's sideline...and it was a violation on the offensive team (backcourt violation...but could have easily been a travel or any other violation). The trail will administer that throwin, on the sideline, with the old lead running coast to coast. It is only offensive violations on the trail's side in the frontcourt that causes a bump-n-run.
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That's still a classic bump-and-run in my world.
Unless the mechanic of administering on your own line has changed over the years, I'm talking about a "by the book" mechanic. Over the years I have found this mechanic to be easily confused by both rookies, and veterans, thus I think Butterfly182310's comment is the most important in the thread: You should be looking for the old lead official coming toward you, toss the ball in his/her direction, and immediately head for the endline to become the new lead official.

As long as you make eye contact with your partner, and make the mechanic look smooth, nobody will notice whether you do it by the book, or not. We don't want both to run down to the endline to become the new lead, with nobody to administer, and we don't want both hanging around as the new trail fighting over one basketball.
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I think you're all misreading Billy's post.

The play is a violation IN the backcourt on the trail's sideline...and it was a violation on the offensive team (backcourt violation...but could have easily been a travel or any other violation). The trail will administer that throwin, on the sideline, with the old lead running coast to coast. It is only offensive violations on the trail's side in the frontcourt that causes a bump-n-run.
I don't recall a coast to coast switch on a violation ever having been proper mechanics.

Federation 2 person... It doesn't matter if it's front court or back court. It doesn't matter which sideline the throw-in is coming from. Old trail becomes new lead. Old lead becomes new trail. Forcing old lead to become new lead just delays the resumption of play while he gets into position. Seems to make more sense for both officials to reposition simultaneously by going half the length of the court rather then waiting for one official to travel the entire length of the court.

The only time I can see going from lead to lead is if play has drawn both officials to be nearly opposite each other. Then the trail official might give his/her partner a nod, sending them to the opposite endline, rather than coming across the court. Still wouldn't be "proper" mechanic though.

Now, if you're working with someone who doesn't move real well, and you want to help him out, go ahead and run the length. You'll have a greatfull partner. Just realize that if you get into that habit, you could look like a Chinese Fire Drill when you work with someone else.
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I don't recall a coast to coast switch on a violation ever having been proper mechanics.
As I previously posted, unless the mechanic has changed over the years, and that is certainly possible, since our local board has switched from NFHS, to IAABO mechanics, over the past few years, the "by the book" mechanic used to be to always administer your own line, that is to say, your new own line.

Of course, IAABO has mucked up the definition of "your own line", which is a separate problem for a separate thread.
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