Whacked Home Coach.......Probably not deserved.....

[RobbyinTN]

IMHO, it all depends on intent and loudness. I had a Boys JV game yesterday and one of the player's missed his shot and said "sh*t" but had I not been next to him I would not have heard it and he was pissed at himself, no one else so I let it go. Had it been loud enough for others to plainly hear I would have probably whacked him. Had it been the F word, I would have definitely have whacked him.

[tref]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

Had it been the F word, I would have definitely have whacked him.

Even if it was under his breath, in the same context & lower than when he said sh*t?

[RobbyinTN]

Originally Posted by tref

Even if it was under his breath, in the same context & lower than when he said sh*t?

I would have told him to watch his language if he did it like this.

[Treeguy]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

IMHO, it all depends on intent and loudness. I had a Boys JV game yesterday and one of the player's missed his shot and said "sh*t" but had I not been next to him I would not have heard it and he was pissed at himself, no one else so I let it go. Had it been loud enough for others to plainly hear I would have probably whacked him. Had it been the F word, I would have definitely have whacked him.

Had something similar, whan a player said f*%k under his breath while running past me. He looked up and saw me and said"oops, sorry". No one else was around and only I heard it. I just chuckled and let it go.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

IMHO, it all depends on intent and loudness. I had a Boys JV game yesterday and one of the player's missed his shot and said "sh*t" but had I not been next to him I would not have heard it and he was pissed at himself, no one else so I let it go. Had it been loud enough for others to plainly hear I would have probably whacked him. Had it been the F word, I would have definitely have whacked him.

This is one that I handle by saying something to the player like "I understand your frustration, but let's try to keep the language in check."

I also agree with Eastshire that HS athletics are an extension of the classroom...If a teacher in a classroom yelled "DAMN IT, John....Why can't you get these homework problems correct?!?!" I'm pretty sure there would be repercussions...why would it be any different on the basketball court?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Andy

This is one that I handle by saying something to the player like "I understand your frustration, but let's try to keep the language in check."

I also agree with Eastshire that HS athletics are an extension of the classroom...If a teacher in a classroom yelled "DAMN IT, John....Why can't you get these homework problems correct?!?!" I'm pretty sure there would be repercussions...why would it be any different on the basketball court?

Because you're taking that saying and making it something it isn't.

In the classroom, the coach would never openly question the authority of the person running the school, either. They do that *all the time* during a basketball game.

It may be an extension of the classroom, but the rules (especially the unwritten ones) are not the same.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Because you're taking that saying and making it something it isn't.

In the classroom, the coach would never openly question the authority of the person running the school, either. They do that *all the time* during a basketball game.

It may be an extension of the classroom, but the rules (especially the unwritten ones) are not the same.

I don't know that I agree the rules are substantially different. A coach is expected to be a role model of good sportsmanship and citizenship. Sure they don't always live up to it, but neither do teachers in the class room. The failure to meet the goals doesn't mean the goals aren't there.

Also, you've not been in a lot of the classrooms I've been in .

[Adam]

In some areas, you can hold them to a very tight standard; in fact you're expected to.

In other areas, you're better off showing some discretion.

Neither is worse nor better than the other, but let's stop pretending the standards are the same everywhere.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

A coach is expected to be a role model of good sportsmanship and citizenship.

+1

If you go with the mantra "just let them be emotional," you're asking for trouble, IMO. Leave the emotions for the fans; there's a higher standard for those in the game.

If interscholastic sports are supposed to teach life skills, remaining calm under pressure is an important one, because that skill is a requirement in the real world. I say it every game: Questioning is fine, so long as its done civilly.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I say it every game: Questioning is fine, so long as its done civilly.

When do you say this?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

When do you say this?

Maybe I should add it to my signature?

[tref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

When do you say this?

In the pregame man! Right before, "Let us know on all fulls & 30s" & after "We're gonna work hard for you tonight."

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

When do you say this?

Pre-game, with a grin and positive energy. "Question anything you like, as long as you're civil about it. Let's have some fun!"

It works. In six years, I've only had to T up a coach once.