First "T" for this year

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I work with more of these guys than you can shake a stick at.....true.

I've had a few like that, too.

[zm1283]

I had one very similar to this today. White 42 fouls Red 20 on a shot, I'm the T and I call it. It's W42's fifth foul. Before I get turned around to report, he yells "Call the over the back" and throws his hands up at me. Whack.

I should have gotten a kid in our first game as well for throwing his hands up and yelling "Come on!" after I called him for a foul. A warning and speaking to a captain for his team took care of it thankfully.

[Jurassic Referee]

If the player yells at you, it's an obvious "T". If he just says it to you though without putting on a show, I'll give him a response such as "There was no foul on that play".

It doesn't bother me personally if they mutter a little as long as they don't say the wrong thing while doing so or make me look bad.

JMHO

[Jay R]

FWIW, don't worry about the number of technicals as much of the quality or necessity of each. You have partners who have never called a T. How can an official work a number of years and never have a situation that deserves a T?

I always worry about officials who brag because they never call a T. If I'm their partner, chances I'll be the one to take care business because they won't. Conversely, I also worry about officials who seem to revel in calling technicals.

Treat technicals like any other foul or violations. Don't come off the floor after a game worrying about the number of travels you called, just hope that you got the ones that were needed.

[BillyMac]

First T's of the year for me yesterday. Prep school varsity game.

A1 gets fouled in the act, not a hard foul, ball doesn't go in, by B1. My partner heads to the table to report. I head to new lead to administer free throws. A1 sees me coming, and while turning his back to me, and to B1, tosses the ball over his shoulder to me, and the ball hits B1 squarely in the face. B1 becomes quite agitated, so I speak to him, and his teammates, trying to calm them down (I really do understand why they're upset), which I successfully accomplish. This happens a few feet from the fans, who start yelling at me that I'm talking to the wrong (and wronged) player, which further incites the players. One particular fan actually got out of his seat and came a few feet onto the court to complain.

No site director available, so I go over to the Team B home head coach and ask that this fan be ejected. His assistant coach stands and tells me that I can't do that. I tell the head coach to control his bench. Assistant coach continues to complain. First technical foul of the year. Fan is ejected.

My partner and I get the two head coaches, and all the captains, together to discuss the situation, with the emphasis being that this was a good game up until that point, the ball tossed into the face was totally accidental, and that the rest of the game was salvageable with the cooperation of all involved. They all agree and we head back to the court.

On the way back to the court I come within six feet of one of Team B captains yelling, "F*** you", to one of the substitutes on the Team B bench. I wish I had heard what was said previous to that, but I didn't, so, second technical foul of the year.

Team A, visiting team, shoots the two free throws for in the act, shoots two for the technical on the assistant coach, shoots two for the technical foul on the captain, and a Team B fan has been ejected. On the way home I report to my assignment commissioner and we decide that much of this could have been avoided if a site director had been available.

Here's the kicker. The home team is a Christan school, they all prayed together before the game, and from their website, "Every activity, from athletics to art, from theater to peer tutoring, from science labs to the dining hall, from music to mission trips, serves to reinforce the message that your child has been uniquely designed by God and has a unique call on his/her life. The school is proud to play a part in developing young students’ lifelong dedication to excellence, integrity and truth."

I guess that the assistant coaches aren't required to adhere to good Christan values? I guess that the parent/fans send their kids there so that their kids won't grow up to be like them? Not sure that's it's working.

[SNIPERBBB]

In the heat of battle, slips happen...often repeatedly. Just come watch my church softball league.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

In the heat of battle, slips happen...often repeatedly. Just come watch my church softball league.

Our pastor used to come to our games. Guess who yelled at the umpire the most?

[stir22]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've had a few like that, too.

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

[Adam]

Originally Posted by stir22

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

Welcome to the forum. That particular comment was directed towards the guy who, as R, draws the captains meeting out into some sort of a rules clinic. The kids are barely paying attention anyway, just enough to be able to hear you say they're done.

My meetings are short.
1. 10 seconds for the players to introduce themselves. Half the time, they already know each other.
2. 5-10 seconds on sportsmanship
3. 3 seconds on jewelry
4. 2 seconds to ask my partner(s) if there's anything to add.
5. 1 second for them to say no.

That gives me a 4 second cushion to be gone in thirty seconds.

Some guys will also ask for speaking captains, another 10 seconds at most.

[stir22]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Welcome to the forum. That particular comment was directed towards the guy who, as R, draws the captains meeting out into some sort of a rules clinic. The kids are barely paying attention anyway, just enough to be able to hear you say they're done.

My meetings are short.
1. 10 seconds for the players to introduce themselves. Half the time, they already know each other.
2. 5-10 seconds on sportsmanship
3. 3 seconds on jewelry
4. 2 seconds to ask my partner(s) if there's anything to add.
5. 1 second for them to say no.

That gives me a 4 second cushion to be gone in thirty seconds.

Some guys will also ask for speaking captains, another 10 seconds at most.

many thanks...

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Welcome to the forum. That particular comment was directed towards the guy who, as R, draws the captains meeting out into some sort of a rules clinic. The kids are barely paying attention anyway, just enough to be able to hear you say they're done.

My meetings are short.
1. 10 seconds for the players to introduce themselves. Half the time, they already know each other.
2. 5-10 seconds on sportsmanship
3. 3 seconds on jewelry
4. 2 seconds to ask my partner(s) if there's anything to add.
5. 1 second for them to say no.

That gives me a 4 second cushion to be gone in thirty seconds.

Some guys will also ask for speaking captains, another 10 seconds at most.

...that's mine...except I introduce my partner(s) and myself when R...and minus #3.

[APG]

Originally Posted by stir22

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

If you're referring to Snaqwell's signature, then "that guy" refers to the official who spends the captains meeting telling the captains useless information that he/she is either not listening to or will forget by the time he/she gets back to their team.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If you're referring to Snaqwell's signature, then "that guy" refers to the official who spends the captains meeting telling the captains useless information that he/she is either not listening to or will forget by the time he/she gets back to their team.

There are times when some of that info is good to mention.

At some club tournaments that I work, the players often play at one gym, only to play at another gym for the semi-finals and/or finals.

Gyms they're moving to have possibly confusing markings, such as two types of rectangular keys, two three-point lines, etc. One gym even has a very thick OB line around the court, but in actuality, the OB line is just inside that thick black "line", being a 2" wide white line. The rest of the court marking are in the white as well.

So if I believe that the players are experiencing "this gym" for the first time, I do mention it to the captains. I also mention it to the coaches as well.

It's an ounce of prevention instead of a pound of complaining when I whistle an unexpected OB (or other) call.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

There are times when some of that info is good to mention.

At some club tournaments that I work, the players often play at one gym, only to play at another gym for the semi-finals and/or finals.

Gyms they're moving to have possibly confusing markings, such as two types of rectangular keys, two three-point lines, etc. One gym even has a very thick OB line around the court, but in actuality, the OB line is just inside that thick black "line", being a 2" wide white line. The rest of the court marking are in the white as well.

So if I believe that the players are experiencing "this gym" for the first time, I do mention it to the captains. I also mention it to the coaches as well.

It's an ounce of prevention instead of a pound of complaining when I whistle an unexpected OB (or other) call.

This falls under the, "know your animal" category.

At this point in the HS/NCAA season my captains & coaches meeting is the same.
Me: "Questions, comments, concerns?"
Captains/coaches: No
Me: "Ok best wishes!"