First "T" for this year

[Terrapins Fan]

I was hoping to not have any.

I have partners that have NEVER called a "T" and I have partners that RARELY called a "T".

2 years ago, I called 20. I was told that was too many. I thought they were all good. But I have become more patient and last year I called 7.

This is my first this year after about 50 games.

Here's what happen- Player drives to the basket and deliberately avoids contact and adjusts his shot, he misses, then he yells at me "Come on Call the foul".

So, I did. A "T" for unsportsmanlike conduct. This happened in the 3rd Q about 1/2 way through the Quarter.

Good "T"? Or am I still too thinned skinned?

Of course his team was losing, but in the end, it was a 1 point game.

[SNIPERBBB]

If its a true yell, sure why not?

[Adam]

Easy T, IMO.

[Terrapins Fan]

Thanks. I just thought it was disrespectful. And he did yell, fans in the lower seats could hear him.

We had about 250 to 300 people there.

BTW

"Who are my speaking captains? Okay, we're watching for the hand checking tonight, guys, so keep your hands off. We'll try to talk you out of stuff, so if you hear us say to get out of the lane, do it. We'll be playing the black line all the way around; except on the endlines where it's orange. Any questions?" - That Guy

I work with more of these guys than you can shake a stick at.....true.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I work with more of these guys than you can shake a stick at.....true.

I've had a few like that, too.

[zm1283]

I had one very similar to this today. White 42 fouls Red 20 on a shot, I'm the T and I call it. It's W42's fifth foul. Before I get turned around to report, he yells "Call the over the back" and throws his hands up at me. Whack.

I should have gotten a kid in our first game as well for throwing his hands up and yelling "Come on!" after I called him for a foul. A warning and speaking to a captain for his team took care of it thankfully.

[Jurassic Referee]

If the player yells at you, it's an obvious "T". If he just says it to you though without putting on a show, I'll give him a response such as "There was no foul on that play".

It doesn't bother me personally if they mutter a little as long as they don't say the wrong thing while doing so or make me look bad.

JMHO

[stir22]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've had a few like that, too.

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

[Adam]

Originally Posted by stir22

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

Welcome to the forum. That particular comment was directed towards the guy who, as R, draws the captains meeting out into some sort of a rules clinic. The kids are barely paying attention anyway, just enough to be able to hear you say they're done.

My meetings are short.
1. 10 seconds for the players to introduce themselves. Half the time, they already know each other.
2. 5-10 seconds on sportsmanship
3. 3 seconds on jewelry
4. 2 seconds to ask my partner(s) if there's anything to add.
5. 1 second for them to say no.

That gives me a 4 second cushion to be gone in thirty seconds.

Some guys will also ask for speaking captains, another 10 seconds at most.

[APG]

Originally Posted by stir22

what does this mean? i'm in my 3rd year, new to the forum...i don't want to become "that guy."

/thanks

If you're referring to Snaqwell's signature, then "that guy" refers to the official who spends the captains meeting telling the captains useless information that he/she is either not listening to or will forget by the time he/she gets back to their team.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Here's what happen- Player drives to the basket and deliberately avoids contact and adjusts his shot, he misses, then he yells at me "Come on Call the foul".....Good "T"?

The player gave you an order. 'Nuff said.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

I was hoping to not have any.

I have partners that have NEVER called a "T" and I have partners that RARELY called a "T".

2 years ago, I called 20. I was told that was too many. I thought they were all good. But I have become more patient and last year I called 7.

I dont understand how someone has never called (and i have met a small handful of these guys) or rarely called a T. I dont think 20 is to much as it depends on what happened in your games. This year I think im around 15. 1 has been a direct to the coach 2 has been indirect plus ive had 1 administrative. About 5 have been for dead ball contact and the rest have been for players just acting the fool (slamming the ball, pulling out jersey's after a call, and just acting way out of line).

I think the more games you do you SHOULD eventually have a T as its a game of numbers and a T is just another call such as a block/charge. Its one that is earned and there is nothing to be proud of having the most or never having any at all.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by deecee

I dont understand how someone has never called (and i have met a small handful of these guys) or rarely called a T. I dont think 20 is to much as it depends on what happened in your games. This year I think im around 15. 1 has been a direct to the coach 2 has been indirect plus ive had 1 administrative. About 5 have been for dead ball contact and the rest have been for players just acting the fool (slamming the ball, pulling out jersey's after a call, and just acting way out of line).

I think the more games you do you SHOULD eventually have a T as its a game of numbers and a T is just another call such as a block/charge. Its one that is earned and there is nothing to be proud of having the most or never having any at all.

I have a guy I worked with, he reffed for near 40 years. Did more than 100 games a year each year and NEVER called a "T".

I am with you guys, it's part of the game. Oh, I had one who saw a PRE game dunk in warm ups and I said, " You "T"ing him up for that?" He said, "No, I am just going to tell him not to do it again".....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

Saw a pregame dunk in warm ups and I said, " You "T"ing him up for that?" He said, "No, I am just going to tell him not to do it again".

It depends on what the meaning of the word dunk is.

[Butterfly182310]

I've never handed out a lot of T's. In my early days though, I did adhere to the advice that certain acts were automatic T's. In retrospect though, many of them were not really necessary. Eg. When a player commits a foul, then slams the ball against the floor and catches it because he's angry at himself, it's probably not a T'able offense in my book. A few words with that player to make sure he's back in the right frame of mind will go further toward game control than calling a technical foul. It's hard to imagine any referee going through too many seasons without issuing a single "T", but if they're a routine part of nearly every game, we may want to re-evaluate our criteria for calling them.