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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:55pm
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OK three steps
Still, in real time, looks close enough to a jump stop to be legal.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:02pm
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Still, in real time, looks close enough to a jump stop to be legal.
I don't know, the first time I saw the video I could tell it was a travel, in real time. Close enough to go either way? Probably, but it's still an obvious travel to me.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:05pm
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Ahh, the first time
you saw the video, not the first time the ref, or a ref, saw the PLAY.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:06pm
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Yes, it's probably a foul.

Yes, it's traveling.
No, it's probably not a foul.

No, it's not traveling.

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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:08pm
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you saw the video, not the first time the ref, or a ref, saw the PLAY.
According to this logic, video replay is useless.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:13pm
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It would be in this situation. The call has to stand.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:18pm
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It would be in this situation. The call has to stand.
I don't understand this statement? The video clearly shows the play was a travel. It also shows there was a foul on the play.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:21pm
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It would be in this situation. The call has to stand.
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Thanks, Captain Obvious.

Obviously the call stands, it's not a reviewable play. It does, however, show the official missed the call. Now, he may have decided to let the travel go after letting the foul go, or he may have simply missed it. But the fact is, he missed it.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:34pm
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So the replay shows he may have walked
What are you or anyone else gonna do with it now? Use it as a future training video? I'm only backing, not bashing, the official(s) on this. I'm betting any one of you would NOT have called a walk when seeing it FIRST and in REAL time. We could all pull tapes where we missed a call or two and besides the jump stops now a days have gotten out of hand imo. I agreed it was a walk when seeing it slow; I guess I just don't know what the point of questioning it now is. Most of you guys have been the first to come to the defense of fellow officials, rather than the other way around.

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A useless bet. We're critiquing the call, that's it. No one is bashing the officials here. I would like to think I'd have had the foul, but I'm pretty sure I'd have nailed the travel. I've called several just like it; it's a poorly executed jump stop.
You don't need to see it in slow motion, that's my point. First time I saw it, in real time, it was obvious to me it was a travel.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:42pm
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What are you or anyone else gonna do with it now? Use it as a future training video? I'm only backing, not bashing, the official(s) on this. I'm betting any one of you would NOT have called a walk when seeing it FIRST and in REAL time. We could all pull tapes where we missed a call or two and besides the jump stops now a days have gotten out of hand imo. I agreed it was a walk when seeing it slow; I guess I just don't know what the point of questioning it now is. Most of you guys have been the first to come to the defense of fellow officials, rather than the other way around.

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No one is coming to the defense of the official because no one was attacking the official. Rather we are critiquing the call. If we can't do that, then we might as well get rid of video review.

As far as seeing the play in real time, I caught the travel the first time. I might of missed the foul though which is why it's important we watch tape.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 04:45pm
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I'm cool with the critiquing
I enjoy everyone's different point of view here, thanks. And I don't believe video replay is useless, to the contrary, helpful in many instances. Especially to start arguments...I mean critiques.
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Just about any NCAA game you care to watch has numerous travels a lot more obvious than this one that are missed/ignored. It's headed in the direction of the NBA.
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He traveled because the defender pushed him with two hands...should have been a foul that caused the travel.
I just saw the play at lunch. That exactly what I saw.

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What are you or anyone else gonna do with it now? Use it as a future training video? I'm only backing, not bashing, the official(s) on this. I'm betting any one of you would NOT have called a walk when seeing it FIRST and in REAL time. We could all pull tapes where we missed a call or two and besides the jump stops now a days have gotten out of hand imo. I agreed it was a walk when seeing it slow; I guess I just don't know what the point of questioning it now is. Most of you guys have been the first to come to the defense of fellow officials, rather than the other way around.

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In real time I couldn't see it was a travel b/c Walker's legs are blocked by the defenders from that camera angle. In the replay it's an obvious travel...caused by an obvious foul
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Did Jay throw a red flag on the court?

I real time it didn't look too bad. Angles of vision make it hard to see the details.
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