Fan "showing up" the official

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Standing there, holding the ball, when no one has asked for it, is not delaying the game. He did nothing wrong until the official asked for the ball and he decided to be an a$$.

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game. It's understood that if we need the AD, we get someone at the table to either radio the AD or find him.

My partner saw the AD in the corner and started walking towards him (I had already returned from reporting the foul). He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left. Had he not, he would've been escorted out by the AD.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

the "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka dog) as what should of been done.

Game management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Game management should of been involved way before the "fan" rolled the ball to the other end of the court.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Eventually, my partner asked for the ball and the guy rolled it slowly to the other (empty) end of the court, where it had to be retrieved by game management.

See ya buddy. Our entire province has a zero-tolerance on BS from fans, etc.

This is clearly BS.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Last night I worked a not-so-close GV game. I think it ended 60-33 or something like that. The interesting part of the game was that the home (and winning) team played aggressive press/trap basketball all night long and the losing team essentially sat back in a zone and played no defense. We went the first 4 minutes of the game with no fouls and then the home team managed to pick up NINE in the last 4 minutes of the first quarter. At one point the foul total was 20-5 (13-4 in the first half and 7-1 in the second half). And in the second half we went the first five minutes without a foul.

To the home coach's credit, he never once said a word about this. Not that he was quiet all night, as I'll describe in a minute.

Anyway, the point of the thread.

I'm the T, 2-person. We're in transition and I come in strong and get a foul from behind on a shooter. I'm not sure why the home coach (who was up 20 at this point) decided to, in the words of Demi Moore, "strenuously object", but he did and I ended up having to address his crucifixion pose and his loud mouth after reporting the foul. Very strange. Let's say I did (which I didn't) miss the call. So what? He's up 20, the foul was the girl's first of the night, and the team had already committed 19 fouls. Anyway....

(All of the following was told to me by my partner. I had my back turned.)

As I'm reporting, apparently the ball rolled towards the bleachers at the division line. About a foot of space on the sides. Guy picks up the ball and holds it while I'm addressing the coach's interpretation of sportsmanship. Partner is still on the baseline supervising the players. He kept an eye on the guy with the ball, though, who decided to not return it right away. Eventually, my partner asked for the ball and the guy rolled it slowly to the other (empty) end of the court, where it had to be retrieved by game management.

Anyhow, I'll stop there to see how others would deal with this, if at all...

And I left my shoes at the school. So I'll make a trip this afternoon, since they're having a FT shooting contest there today (I'm glad I heard that announcement). Last week, I left my glasses at a school. It's worse getting older when I'm forgetful in the first place. Now it's just getting ridiculous....

Never happen, but I'd like to say to management, either he retrieves it or outta here.

Probably just ignore him.

[Mark Padgett]

Sounds like other states should pass a law like we have here in Oregon. If anyone - coach, player, spectator, etc. - is directed to leave a sports venue by an official and they do not leave, they are committing "criminal trespass" and the police can be called to remove the person and charge them with a class C misdemeanor.

I keep a copy of this bill in my bag along with a copy of the Oregon statute on assaulting a sports official, which is, at the very least, a class A misdemeanor, punishable by jail time. When this bill was under consideration by our state legislature a few years ago, I was asked to testify in the State Senate committee, which I did. I was told later by my State Senator that my testimony was very persuasive, and I like to think that I had at least something to do with this law being passed.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Sounds like other states should pass a law like we have here in Oregon. If anyone - coach, player, spectator, etc. - is directed to leave a sports venue by an official and they do not leave, they are committing "criminal trespass" and the police can be called to remove the person and charge them with a class C misdemeanor.

I keep a copy of this bill in my bag along with a copy of the Oregon statute on assaulting a sports official, which is, at the very least, a class A misdemeanor, punishable by jail time. When this bill was under consideration by our state legislature a few years ago, I was asked to testify in the State Senate committee, which I did. I was told later by my State Senator that my testimony was very persuasive, and I like to think that I had at least something to do with this law being passed.

Maybe we need you to come across the Columbia & help out up here to get similar legislation passed.