Fan "showing up" the official

[chseagle]

Game management should of been involved way before the "fan" rolled the ball to the other end of the court.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

(All of the following was told to me by my partner. I had my back turned.)

As I'm reporting, apparently the ball rolled towards the bleachers at the division line. About a foot of space on the sides. Guy picks up the ball and holds it while I'm addressing the coach's interpretation of sportsmanship. Partner is still on the endline supervising the players. He kept an eye on the guy with the ball, though, who decided to not return it right away. Eventually, my partner asked for the ball and the guy rolled it slowly to the other (empty) end of the court, where it had to be retrieved by game management.

Anyhow, I'll stop there to see how others would deal with this, if at all...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Game management should of been involved way before the "fan" rolled the ball to the other end of the court.

Why? What did he do wrong before that?

[chseagle]

The "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka DOG) as what should of been done.

Game Management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Why? What did he do wrong before that?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka DOG) as what should of been done.

Game Management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

I think I speak for us all when I say:

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would have stood there waiting for someone to retrieve the ball.

+1

Originally Posted by chseagle

The "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka DOG) as what should of been done.

Huh?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka DOG) as what should of been done.

Game Management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

The fan has nothing to do with delay of game.

But I agree that game management should address such an issue without having to be asked. Most times, they aren't paying attention to anything.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka DOG) as what should of been done.

Game Management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

Standing there, holding the ball, when no one has asked for it, is not delaying the game. He did nothing wrong until the official asked for the ball and he decided to be an a$$.

[26 Year Gap]

I suppose you could have had game management give the guy a choice: Go get the ball or leave the gym.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Standing there, holding the ball, when no one has asked for it, is not delaying the game. He did nothing wrong until the official asked for the ball and he decided to be an a$$.

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game. It's understood that if we need the AD, we get someone at the table to either radio the AD or find him.

My partner saw the AD in the corner and started walking towards him (I had already returned from reporting the foul). He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left. Had he not, he would've been escorted out by the AD.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left.

Hey, a polite, cooperative jerk. Gotta love it.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Hey, a polite, cooperative jerk. Gotta love it.

Probably didn't want to get booted for future games by the AD.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game.

Perhaps where you live but not here. For example, 2A school this past Friday, both the prinicpal and AD are present as well as 4 four sheriff's deputies. We won't start a game if security isn't present.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Perhaps where you live but not here. For example, 2A school this past Friday, both the prinicpal and AD are present as well as 4 four sheriff's deputies. We won't start a game if security isn't present.

I'm sure more people are present, but I'm not made aware of them and I don't worry about it. I have seen security/deputies/police in place, but that's usually at the bigger/city schools.

[chseagle]

Game management here is (as RookieDude knows) the AD, the Principal, Vice Principal, my wife, my mother, my father, & myself. That's for a WIAA 1A Classification school.

At least the guy was polite in leaving.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game. It's understood that if we need the AD, we get someone at the table to either radio the AD or find him.

My partner saw the AD in the corner and started walking towards him (I had already returned from reporting the foul). He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left. Had he not, he would've been escorted out by the AD.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Game management here is (as RookieDude knows) the AD, the Principal, Vice Principal, my wife, my mother, my father, & myself.

Does everybody get a vote? If so, why don't you vote the Principal and the Principal In Charge of Vice off the island and declare yourself king?