Fan "showing up" the official

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

the "fan" did not return the ball right away (aka dog) as what should of been done.

Game management should of seen the delay & went to get the ball before the official even asked.

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[26 Year Gap]

I suppose you could have had game management give the guy a choice: Go get the ball or leave the gym.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Standing there, holding the ball, when no one has asked for it, is not delaying the game. He did nothing wrong until the official asked for the ball and he decided to be an a$$.

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game. It's understood that if we need the AD, we get someone at the table to either radio the AD or find him.

My partner saw the AD in the corner and started walking towards him (I had already returned from reporting the foul). He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left. Had he not, he would've been escorted out by the AD.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left.

Hey, a polite, cooperative jerk. Gotta love it.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Hey, a polite, cooperative jerk. Gotta love it.

Probably didn't want to get booted for future games by the AD.

[Rich]

Last night I had what was (pretty much) a snoozefest. 60ish to 30ish, 3 person girls. Highlight of the night was when the winning coach said to me (with 1:30 left in the game), "You know, Rich, the game isn't over yet...." after one of those scrums in the paint so common in girls games where there's a lot of contact, but no fouls.

I tried not to laugh out loud.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Last night I worked a not-so-close GV game. I think it ended 60-33 or something like that. The interesting part of the game was that the home (and winning) team played aggressive press/trap basketball all night long and the losing team essentially sat back in a zone and played no defense. We went the first 4 minutes of the game with no fouls and then the home team managed to pick up NINE in the last 4 minutes of the first quarter. At one point the foul total was 20-5 (13-4 in the first half and 7-1 in the second half). And in the second half we went the first five minutes without a foul.

To the home coach's credit, he never once said a word about this. Not that he was quiet all night, as I'll describe in a minute.

Anyway, the point of the thread.

I'm the T, 2-person. We're in transition and I come in strong and get a foul from behind on a shooter. I'm not sure why the home coach (who was up 20 at this point) decided to, in the words of Demi Moore, "strenuously object", but he did and I ended up having to address his crucifixion pose and his loud mouth after reporting the foul. Very strange. Let's say I did (which I didn't) miss the call. So what? He's up 20, the foul was the girl's first of the night, and the team had already committed 19 fouls. Anyway....

(All of the following was told to me by my partner. I had my back turned.)

As I'm reporting, apparently the ball rolled towards the bleachers at the division line. About a foot of space on the sides. Guy picks up the ball and holds it while I'm addressing the coach's interpretation of sportsmanship. Partner is still on the baseline supervising the players. He kept an eye on the guy with the ball, though, who decided to not return it right away. Eventually, my partner asked for the ball and the guy rolled it slowly to the other (empty) end of the court, where it had to be retrieved by game management.

Anyhow, I'll stop there to see how others would deal with this, if at all...

And I left my shoes at the school. So I'll make a trip this afternoon, since they're having a FT shooting contest there today (I'm glad I heard that announcement). Last week, I left my glasses at a school. It's worse getting older when I'm forgetful in the first place. Now it's just getting ridiculous....

Never happen, but I'd like to say to management, either he retrieves it or outta here.

Probably just ignore him.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game.

Perhaps where you live but not here. For example, 2A school this past Friday, both the prinicpal and AD are present as well as 4 four sheriff's deputies. We won't start a game if security isn't present.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Perhaps where you live but not here. For example, 2A school this past Friday, both the prinicpal and AD are present as well as 4 four sheriff's deputies. We won't start a game if security isn't present.

I'm sure more people are present, but I'm not made aware of them and I don't worry about it. I have seen security/deputies/police in place, but that's usually at the bigger/city schools.

[26 Year Gap]

Sometimes there is a lone sheriff's deputy on hand at games near here.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Last night I had what was (pretty much) a snoozefest. 60ish to 30ish, 3 person girls. Highlight of the night was when the winning coach said to me (with 1:30 left in the game), "You know, Rich, the game isn't over yet...." after one of those scrums in the paint so common in girls games where there's a lot of contact, but no fouls.

I tried not to laugh out loud.

"Coach, unfortunately you are correct".

[Rich]

Originally Posted by zm1283

"Coach, unfortunately you are correct".

This guy always says crap like this at the end of games when we decide that contact on one of his precious players doesn't amount to a foul. The only part of it that annoys me is that I work 100% from the time we walk on the floor until the final horn and, for some reason, he's insinuating that we don't.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This guy always says crap like this at the end of games when we decide that contact on one of his precious players doesn't amount to a foul. The only part of it that annoys me is that I work 100% from the time we walk on the floor until the final horn and, for some reason, he's insinuating that we don't.

Call him out on it some time.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This guy always says crap like this at the end of games when we decide that contact on one of his precious players doesn't amount to a foul. The only part of it that annoys me is that I work 100% from the time we walk on the floor until the final horn and, for some reason, he's insinuating that we don't.

You're not alone then, because it seems that girls basketball games are the same no matter where you are. Emotional players, coaches, and especially fans.....more so than in boys games.

I've heard several coaches this year do this (usually girls coaches). They don't say much at all most of the game and then when they're down 15 with a minute left they start with these types of comments. Very annoying.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Call him out on it some time.

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Peace