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[chseagle]

Ok here's a shot that's really not seen very often

Guard hits amazing, back-to-basket, mid-court shot at buzzer - Prep Rally - High School - Yahoo! Sports

Question is however did he travel before releasing the ball & was there a foul not called on the shot?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Question is however did he travel before releasing the ball & was there a foul not called on the shot?

No.

Thanks for asking.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok here's a shot that's really not seen very often

Guard hits amazing, back-to-basket, mid-court shot at buzzer - Prep Rally - High School - Yahoo! Sports

Question is however did he travel before releasing the ball & was there a foul not called on the shot?

(1) You can't see his feet in the video, but they don't appear to move.

(2) Why would there be a foul called?

If you're going to try to ask "officiating questions" at the end to make the posts seem on topic when it's just off-topic nonsense, at least make them better.

[chseagle]

Rich, I thought I might of seen some contact from the defense on the shot is why I was curious on whether or not a foul could of been called making this a 4 pt. play.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

(1) You can't see his feet in the video, but they don't appear to move.

(2) Why would there be a foul called?

If you're going to try to ask "officiating questions" at the end to make the posts seem on topic when it's just off-topic nonsense, at least make them better.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Rich, I thought I might of seen some contact from the defense on the shot is why I was curious on whether or not a foul could of been called making this a 4 pt. play.

Right. Reminds me of the coach who wants a foul on a shot from 3/4 court where the "shooter" launches himself into the nearest defender.

"Where's the foul?"

What foul?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Right. Reminds me of the coach who wants a foul on a shot from 3/4 court where the "shooter" launches himself into the nearest defender.

"Where's the foul?"

What foul?

I actually have called a foul on a 2/3 court shot once. The defender wiped the shooter out right in front the defender's coach. HC said something to me about the call. I told him he needed asked his player what he was doing fouling in that situation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Rich, I thought I might of seen some contact from the defense on the shot is why I was curious on whether or not a foul could of been called making this a 4 pt. play.

Well yes a foul "could" make this a 4 pt play, but contact does not equal a foul. Judging by the movements of the shooter, there wasn't nearly enough contact to create an advantage (or disrupt his RSBQ if you prefer).

[chseagle]

To me the video was inconclusive as to whether a foul happened or not.

Considering I still do not have the full understanding of disadvantage/advantage is why I was asking.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Well yes a foul "could" make this a 4 pt play, but contact does not equal a foul. Judging by the movements of the shooter, there wasn't nearly enough contact to create an advantage (or disrupt his RSBQ if you prefer).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

To me the video was inconclusive as to whether a foul happened or not.

Considering I still do not have the full understanding of disadvantage/advantage is why I was asking.

1. the video is inconclusive as to wether there was any contact.
2. if there was contact, it sure looks like the shooter initiates it against a perfectly vertical defender. (shooter was responsible for contact)
3. If there was contact, it seems pretty conclusive that it didn't affect his shot at all. (no advantage anyway)

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by chseagle

To me the video was inconclusive as to whether a foul happened or not.

Considering I still do not have the full understanding of disadvantage/advantage is why I was asking.

I understand you are not an official but as an official we are trained to "referee the defense." The defender stands there with his hands up and I don't even think there is contact at all.

How this could possibly be a foul or even questioned to be a foul is beyond me.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

[chseagle]

I am, however, thinking of becoming an official (once I finally get my knee taken care of as I'm tired of wearing this brace).

I was asking due to seeing some of the comments on the article for clarification.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I understand you are not an official but as an official we are trained to "referee the defense." The defender stands there with his hands up and I don't even think there is contact at all.

How this could possibly be a foul or even questioned to be a foul is beyond me.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

[bainsey]

Forget the foul or travel. I love the fact that the T didn't bother to signal a three-point attempt until the ball got close.

Likely T mindset: "(Ball released) That's not going.... (Ball getting close) Well, maybe it... (Basket good) HOLY $#!%!!!"

[Adam]

well that will teach you to read the comments.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

forget the foul or travel. I love the fact that the t didn't bother to signal a three-point attempt until the ball got close.

Likely t mindset: "(ball released) that's not going.... (ball getting close) well, maybe it... (basket good) holy $#!%!!!"

Exactly.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I actually have called a foul on a 2/3 court shot once. The defender wiped the shooter out right in front the defender's coach. HC said something to me about the call. I told him he needed asked his player what he was doing fouling in that situation.

I'm sure it could happen. A majority of the time, though, the shooter will launch into a defender in order to get adequate distance on the shot. That will (almost) never result in a foul being called.