If I could change one rule, it would be....

[Larks]

Originally Posted by Cobra

I would say no timeouts even if the ball is dead if the clock is running.

Originally Posted by Cobra

Why are you talking about correctable errors? What does that have to do with coaches requesting timeouts?

I asked you...when is the clock running and the ball is dead?

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

Maybe my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet but I don't know any other time that the ball is dead while the clock is moving.

Anyone??

[Larks]

Have non participants announced at the 4 minute mark in warm ups.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Larks

I asked you...when is the clock running and the ball is dead?

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

Maybe my caffeine hasn't kicked in yet but I don't know any other time that the ball is dead while the clock is moving.

Anyone??

The ball doesn't come "instantly" alive. It becomes alive only when it's at the other team's disposal.

I think someone's point (but I could be wrong) is that they would (or wouldn't) allow a coach to request a TO even after a made basket.

While all this is a nice "fantasy", it will never happen -- the coaches like the rule as it is and won't give up the ability to request TO.

[Raymond]

illegal to play with one contact lense.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

illegal to play with one contact lense.

Or make it a technical.

[Larks]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The ball doesn't come "instantly" alive. It becomes alive only when it's at the other team's disposal.

Not to nit pick but, are you saying that a foul committed in the interim between "checking the net" and "at the disposal" is technical? (dead ball contact)

I agree, I think he meant to suggest no time outs after a made basket. I agree with you, that will never happen.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Larks

Not to nit pick but, are you saying that a foul committed in the interim between "checking the net" and "at the disposal" is technical? (dead ball contact)

If it's a foul (that is, if it's intentional or flagrant), yes, it's a T.

If it's not intentional or flagrant (nor committed on or by an airborne shooter), then the contact is ignored (meaning no foul; the official might want to note / address it).

[Larks]

I stand corrected....

6-7-1 - dead when a goal is made
6-1-2b - live at the disposal

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Larks

Not to nit pick but, are you saying that a foul committed in the interim between "checking the net" and "at the disposal" is technical? (dead ball contact)
...

I called a Technical on kid during this timeframe this season. A1 makes a shot and then turns and shoots an elbow to B1's chest.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Larks

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

I'm not sure I agree with this statement. For all rule purposes, the ball does not become live instantly. It becomes live once it's "at the disposal" even for CE purposes. Am I missing something?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The ball doesn't come "instantly" alive. It becomes alive only when it's at the other team's disposal.

I think someone's point (but I could be wrong) is that they would (or wouldn't) allow a coach to request a TO even after a made basket.

While all this is a nice "fantasy", it will never happen -- the coaches like the rule as it is and won't give up the ability to request TO.

Originally Posted by Larks

I asked you...when is the clock running and the ball is dead?

My point was...and correct me if I am wrong....when the ball checks through the net on a field goal, it becomes dead and then instantly alive for the purposes of the correctable error rules.

For the record, the ball is always either dead or live....but never ALIVE.