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Looks like double whistles to me. Snaqs and 26 need to confer. (with BBR as the third man).
Very well, then. You have the facts (particularly BBR with the P.O.E. citation). However, once again, I'm not talking about obvious advantageous contact. That should always be called, regardless of the time, and called intentional when necessary. Similarly, trifling contact is often ruled incidental throughout the game. Never did I say to swallow your whistle. I'm talking about the tap on the back or arm when the dribbler has clearly passed the defender, and has an easy path toward his desired direction. Such contact is typically passed upon, as it didn't create a clear advantage. If your message is "let the defense stop the clock by calling everything," aren't we abandoning the very advantage/disadvatange judgment we need to do our jobs effectively? |
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You've had several veteran officials explain to you how to manage this point in the game. It's about more than just blowing the whistle. My wife can blow a whistle. You'd be wise to try and pick up something here, rather than arguing about it.
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Good discussion...
Snaqs: "Particularly if the offense is trying to avoid being fouled."
Had one of these earlier this year and the defensive coach was whining about not getting the quick whistle to stop the clock. Me: Coach, he didn't foul him the first time. He missed. Coach: Yeah, my kids just aren't very aggressive. Not sure about his definition... I think we had already called about 25 fouls on his squad. |
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Doesn't mean we're fighting, dude. It's called arguing a point and we do it all the time here.
And yes, you did spin it. No one has advocated calling "the tap on the back or arm when the dribbler has clearly passed the defender," or "let the defense stop the clock by calling everything." We advocate that: 1 - The NFHS, NCAA, FIBA, and the NBA all recognize that strategic fouling is part of the game of basketball. 2- When you know the defense is trying to commit a strategic foul, call the first significant contact so that the contact doesn't escalate. Finally, don't call me sir.
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Of course that's what I meant, too. I'm not calling that tap with the ball handler past the defender at *any* point of the game and certainly not here, either. But there are fouls near the end of the game where, had they happened earlier, I would've passed and hesitated to see if the ball handler could play through the contact. Big difference is that early in the game, the defender is trying to avoid picking up the foul and will immediately back off if he's close to getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Late in the game, the contact will escalate (normally) until we call the foul. That first bump, well, I see no reason to see if A can play through it. Because if I do, the next contact could lead to injury, retaliation, or worse. If we have a timeout, we'll be getting together and saying, "They're going to be trying to foul. Let's get the first one." Regarding intentional fouls -- I see no reason to be a pioneer. I call them when the game and the NFHS expects them to be called. |
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Rich, I called one last year in a middle school game when a team was fouling late in the game. The player grabbed his opponent and bear hugged him big time. Easy intentional in my view but boy did the fouling team's coach come unglued on that one. Expected I suppose but my partner also told me in no uncertain terms that was a bad call.
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