NCAA Record broken

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I remember them. They played D1 under the AAU banner, same as all major college womens basketball teams did at that time. They hold the D1 womens basketball record for consecutive wins, not UConn. Last time I looked, 131 was more than 89.

Exactly. It also means that UCLA is 3rd on the list of the most consecutive wins by a college basketball team. I must admit that it is hard for me to believe that Wayland could be classified as a D1 school with a student population of about 500. Of course, I guess you could be considered "D1" if the AAU had only 1 "D", even though I don't think AAU had any "D's" back then.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BBrules

Exactly. It also means that UCLA is 3rd on the list of the most consecutive wins by a college basketball team. I must admit that it is hard for me to believe that Wayland could be classified as a D1 school with a student population of about 500. Of course, I guess you could be considered "D1" if the AAU had only 1 "D", even though I don't think AAU had any "D's" back then.

I ask again: where is this single record documented at the NCAA? They're separate records.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I ask again: where is this single record documented at the NCAA? They're separate records.

I am not 100% certain, but I believe women's college basketball was under a different umbrella before becoming an NCAA-sponsored sport sometime in the early '80's. That may explain why the Wayland team isn't listed under NCAA stats, because it wasn't an NCAA team.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I am not 100% certain, but I believe women's college basketball was under a different umbrella before becoming an NCAA-sponsored sport sometime in the early '80's. That may explain why the Wayland team isn't listed under NCAA stats, because it wasn't an NCAA team.

All true, but not what I was asking. BBallRules seems to be basing his argument on the fact that the NCAA considers this a single record (most division 1 basketball wins in a row), but I can't find that stat on their website. They separate everything.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

All true, but not what I was asking. BBallRules seems to be basing his argument on the fact that the NCAA considers this a single record (most division 1 basketball wins in a row), but I can't find that stat on their website. They separate everything.

Actually my argument is not solely from the fact that the NCAA considers this a single record, although they sure seem to with this headline from their website:
UConn eclipses UCLA with 89th winSubheadline: Moore's career-high 41 leads three Huskies in double figures
They didn't seem to split anything.
My argument is one from logic and is really answering the basic question: What NCAA basketball team has the most consecutive wins? There can only be one with "the most". That would be UConn without adding any additional qualifiers. Wayland Baptist was not NCAA. They were AAU. Whether the UConn record should be accorded the same acclaim as the men is a secondary question that can encompass all the other minutia.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BBrules

Actually my argument is not solely from the fact that the NCAA considers this a single record, although they sure seem to with this headline from their website:
UConn eclipses UCLA with 89th winSubheadline: Moore's career-high 41 leads three Huskies in double figures
They didn't seem to split anything.
My argument is one from logic and is really answering the basic question: What NCAA basketball team has the most consecutive wins? There can only be one with "the most". That would be UConn without adding any additional qualifiers. Wayland Baptist was not NCAA. They were AAU. Whether the UConn record should be accorded the same acclaim as the men is a secondary question that can encompass all the other minutia.

You're right, it's even weaker than that. You've been quoting headlines that are obviously designed to trumpet the occasion. Headlines aren't evidence. I looked through the NCAA records that they post on their website, and all the apparently official records are separated.

Your asking a question many of us are saying is irrelevant. As I stated, the relevant numbers are either within their category or the NCAA as a whole. They've already passed 70, but 137 (the highest record for NCAA Division 1 consecutive team wins) is a ways away. Will 110 (when they pass the volleyball record) get the same hype as 89 did? I doubt it; because they want to have their record equated with Wooden's.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BBrules

My argument is one from logic and is really answering the basic question: What NCAA basketball team has the most consecutive wins? There can only be one with "the most". That would be UConn without adding any additional qualifiers. Wayland Baptist was not NCAA. They were AAU. Whether the UConn record should be accorded the same acclaim as the men is a secondary question that can encompass all the other minutia.

If you're going to eliminate the men/women qualifier from the question, why not eliminate the NCAA qualifier too? Or even the basketball qualifier?

You could simply say, "What team has the most wins?" (any sport, any organization, any gender).

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I am not 100% certain, but I believe women's college basketball was under a different umbrella before becoming an NCAA-sponsored sport sometime in the early '80's. That may explain why the Wayland team isn't listed under NCAA stats, because it wasn't an NCAA team.

You are wise beyond your years. The AAU was responsible for womens college basketball until 1971 and the the AIAW (Association For Intercollegiate Athletics For Women) took over until 1982. 1982 was the first year that the NCAA had any responsibility or association with womens basketball at all. And now the NCAA is ignoring everything that happened before 1982 while trying to compare a record set by the mens basketball D1 team years before their womens basketball division even existed.

If it didn't happen before 1982, it doesn't exist.

The NCAA is trying to claim the record for consecutive wins by a womens D1 basketball team is 89 while completely ignoring all records of the same sport made or set before 1982. Well, I'm mad as hell and I'm just not going to take this anymore.

Womens basketball is my life.