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View Poll Results: Should UConn's Win Streak be counted all-around or just for Women?
Separate record for win streak 10 100.00%
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 09:32pm
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Apples And Oranges ...

I don't care what the eighty-nine wins in a row were for. Even if were a game of "Chutes and Ladders", that's a pretty impressive feat. It is what it is.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 09:34pm
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To me, it's like the streak of national wrestling championships Iowa ran up in the 80s. It's impressive, but it's not that impressive.

Geno is no Coach Wooden.

Wooden's record stands.
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Geno is no Coach Wooden. Wooden's record stands.
"My grandfather would have been thrilled. He would have been absolutely thrilled to see his streak broken by a women’s basketball team. And he thought, especially in the last 10 years, that the best basketball was played at the collegiate level, and it wasn’t by the men." (Greg Wooden, grandson of former UCLA coach John Wooden)
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 09:46pm
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"My grandfather would have been thrilled. He would have been absolutely thrilled to see his streak broken by a women’s basketball team. And he thought, especially in the last 10 years, that the best basketball was played at the collegiate level, and it wasn’t by the men." (Greg Wooden, grandson of former UCLA coach John Wooden)
Sorry, but I don't buy it. Would Wooden have been thrilled? Probably. But I do not buy that women are playing the best basketball. Your average NAIA division II school would destroy the UConn women's team.

It's an impressive streak, I'm not saying it isn't. I enjoy watching girls and women play basketball, but whether it's "better" is purely subjective and aesthetic. By any objective standard, it's not true.

As some caller said on the radio, "The women are better at the fundamentals. The fundamentals are boring."
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As some caller said on the radio, "The women are better at the fundamentals. The fundamentals are boring."
I don't even buy that they are better at the fundamentals. It's just that the fundamentals are all they have. Not a lot of 360 degree tomahawk jams in the women's game.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:28pm
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I don't even buy that they are better at the fundamentals. It's just that the fundamentals are all they have. Not a lot of 360 degree tomahawk jams in the women's game.
It probably depends on how you define fundamentals. FT percentages? Shooting percentages? I'm not sure what those comparisons would reveal, but just thinking "out loud."
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It probably depends on how you define fundamentals. FT percentages? Shooting percentages? I'm not sure what those comparisons would reveal, but just thinking "out loud."
I have no numbers to back it up, but I don't think the women do anything better than the men. Is there one woman who has a better free throw percentage than any man? Possibly. From top to bottom, do the women do anything better than the men? I doubt it.

With regard to athletic ability, I say the following: How many women in the country can dunk a basketball? A handful

Pick a big high school randomly. 1000 students. How many boys are there in this school that can dunk that don't even play basketball?
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It probably depends on how you define fundamentals. FT percentages? Shooting percentages? I'm not sure what those comparisons would reveal, but just thinking "out loud."
The only thing that is comparable is free throw percentage. Everything else is completely different. You can't compare field goal percentage because that is affected by defense. Put men up against some women's team and see what their stats are for that game.

The most basic skills needed for a basketball player are to be able to run fast and to jump. Women can't do either one nearly as well as men.

When I was in college (D-III) the women's basketball team was pretty decent. For a couple practices they got 2 of the offensive linemen from the football team to come and play with them. The guys were athletic of course but they couldn't jump really high, they weren't super fast, and they weren't the slightest bit good at basketball. They didn't play basketball in HS, there is no way they would have made the team. If you would see their shooting form you would understand what I am saying. Well they just dominated the women. Just think what would have happened if these guys were even average HS players.
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I remember being glued to the TV as Austin Carr made basket after basket. I might scan a headline or maybe not with the UConn win. Probably not since I know the outcome.

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I remember being glued to the TV as Austin Carr made basket after basket. I might scan a headline or maybe not with the UConn win. Probably not since I know the outcome.

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LOL, the true vegetarians I know don't want it to taste like meat.
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As some caller said on the radio, "The women are better at the fundamentals. The fundamentals are boring."
I was with you until then.
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Old Wed Dec 22, 2010, 12:58pm
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To summarize: (about time, too)

How can you possibly think you broke my record if you never
did/will/could possibly compete directly against me or even in a format which was anywhere near the same?
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The Penn State Women's Volleyball team had a win streak of 109 matches going until it was broken in September. Why aren't they getting more press than UConn?

It's nice that they have a record for Women's Basketball...but that's all it is.
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It just total apples and oranges. If there's some guy who wins 90 NCAA games of chess in a row, does he break the record?
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 09:51pm
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It just total apples and oranges. If there's some guy who wins 90 NCAA games of chess in a row, does he break the record?
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By the same token, they need at least 30 more wins to tie the record. Cael Sanderson won 119 wrestling matches in a row.
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