Bad Backcourt Call by Partner. What to do?

[refnuts]

Partner as T rules backcourt on an inbounds pass. A1 passes to A2 who jumped from the frontcourt caught the ball midair and landed in the backcourt.

I'm the L. Partner makes call. What to do?

Partner has 30+ years in and clearly has his mind on 7pm game.

Do you step in and ask him about his call or leave it be?

I had to answer to the coach who just had that call against him.

"Coach I didn't have a great look at that play from where I was."

Coach, "I knew you were going to say that!"

[bob jenkins]

In general, if it's a rules issue I try to fix it. If it's a judgment issue, I don't.

On this play, it's tough to go out there. Coach should try to ask partner to get help.

[Mark Padgett]

If he made that call, you stop the game, go over to him and tell him (loudly) that he's wrong. If he gives you any crap, tell him you have a rulebook in your bag and you'll bring it over and look it up in front of everyone. Tell him that if he's right, you'll give him $100 but if he's wrong, he has to go out into the parking lot and wash your car. Ask him if he wants to make that bet.

Was that helpful?

[youngref33]

Well isn't the player considered being in the front court since its the last spot he left from?

[youngref33]

Well isn't the player considered being in the front court since its the last spot he left from?

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by youngref33

Well isn't the player considered being in the front court since its the last spot he left from?

Indeed however since this is during a throw-in, 9-9-3 applies.

[youngref33]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Indeed however since this is during a throw-in, 9-9-3 applies.

Got it

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by youngref33

Well isn't the player considered being in the front court since its the last spot he left from?

See NFHS Rule 9-1-3.

Just my opinion, refnuts, I'd talk politely with my partner right there. If the shoe were on the other foot, and my partner saw something differently, I'd want him to talk to me. I tell every partner in pre-game that he has an open invitation to discuss any call with me right away. We should care more about getting it right than getting a little egg on our faces.

[Rich]

I had this happen earlier this season, except it was a tipped ball on a throw-in with no frontcourt control that ended up in the backcourt.

I hit my whistle to get my partner's attention, went to my partner, talked to him, the light went on, and he declared an IW and we played on. He thanked me at halftime.

Of course, my partner that night is one of my best friends and I am completely comfortable doing that (and with him doing that) at any time. It's a different dynamic for the OP. Maybe it shouldn't be, but is.

[Judtech]

To be the jerk in the room....(J/k but just saying )
It seems to me you were ball watching. If you are in the L you would be the furthest from the play. I'd let it go until I had a chance to ask them about it later. And it can be done very easily at half/end of quarter or end of game. As you review your game just ask them what they had on the back court violation. Tell him, and he probably already knows, that the coach had a question about it and you didnt "have a good look".
NOW, if YOU were the T and THEY were the L and they blew a back court violation, I would be more prone to stop play and have a conversation with them. In fact have done so on a couple of occasions with "newbies". It does make a great teaching point on several levels. 1) As I stated earlier, I ask them why they were looking at the instead of the other 6-8 players on the floor. 2) Review what constitutes a back court violation and 3) although rare, admit that I probably made an error
Hope that didnt sound too jerky!!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Judtech

To be the jerk in the room....(J/k but just saying )
It seems to me you were ball watching. If you are in the L you would be the furthest from the play. I'd let it go until I had a chance to ask them about it later. And it can be done very easily at half/end of quarter or end of game. As you review your game just ask them what they had on the back court violation. Tell him, and he probably already knows, that the coach had a question about it and you didnt "have a good look".
NOW, if YOU were the T and THEY were the L and they blew a back court violation, I would be more prone to stop play and have a conversation with them. In fact have done so on a couple of occasions with "newbies". It does make a great teaching point on several levels. 1) As I stated earlier, I ask them why they were looking at the instead of the other 6-8 players on the floor. 2) Review what constitutes a back court violation and 3) although rare, admit that I probably made an error
Hope that didnt sound too jerky!!

You're ASSuming the thowin was not on the lead's line. If it was, the lead SHOULD be watching the ball until it is touched.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I had this happen earlier this season, except it was a tipped ball on a throw-in with no frontcourt control that ended up in the backcourt.

I hit my whistle to get my partner's attention, went to my partner, talked to him, the light went on, and he declared an IW and we played on. He thanked me at halftime.

Of course, my partner that night is one of my best friends and I am completely comfortable doing that (and with him doing that) at any time. It's a different dynamic for the OP. Maybe it shouldn't be, but is.

You had the above play happen, except that it was a tipped ball? If so, that's a violation as I understand it. The tip ends the throw-in. So A1 inbounds, B1 tips, A2 jumps from frontcourt, catches the ball in the air, and lands in the backcourt? Violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You're ASSuming the thowin was not on the lead's line. If it was, the lead SHOULD be watching the ball until it is touched.

This was the exact play for which I went to my partner. I was lead, administering the throw-in. Ball went into the BC where the throwing team gained control. Partner called BC. My only regret is that I didn't have her announce the IW.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

You had the above play happen, except that it was a tipped ball? If so, that's a violation as I understand it. The tip ends the throw-in. So A1 inbounds, B1 tips, A2 jumps from frontcourt, catches the ball in the air, and lands in the backcourt? Violation.

Not to speak for Rich but the way I read his post, there was a throw in, a tip by a player in his/her team's front court and then a subsequent touch by the same team in the back court.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Maybe, but he said "I had this happen" so I thought I'd jump in