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[APG]

Originally Posted by chseagle

In the appendix of the rules book as well.

Sure most sub-varsity contests not all the rules are strictly enforced, but why is that?

Concerning having qualified people do table for all levels, it could be done if those selected to do table didn't care about Varsity only.

The person we have do Varsity timing can easily do the JV game before, however she never shows up to the gym until the 4th quarter of the JV game in Gym 1 or she is assisting the concession stand. Apparently she gets paid only to do the Varsity games & so has no interest to assist with the other games.

You won't find many associations that will mandate adults for sub-varsity because..well its sub-varsity. While the games are important to those playing the game, it's still not as important as varsity in the grand scheme of things.

I guess if you wanted to get more adults to do the lower level games, you could make sure they get paid for those games. Even still, some people wouldn't want to do it. You can place restrictions like mandating someone do two games, but when that pool of those that want to be at the table is small as it is, placing restrictions doesn't help. Plus paying an adult for the sub-varsity as well would be an additional cost that schools would have to pay. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather have 3 officials for varsity than have that money go to having an adult for a sub-varsity game.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Chseagle,
You have to realize that at a lot of schools people serve in multiple roles.

For instance at our school:
*The timer and shot clock operator work all 4 games in a night (JV Girls,JV Boys,Varsity Girls,Varsity Boys-in order).

*I handle the score keeping duties for both varsity teams in addition to serving as JV girls statistician.For the JV Boys game I prep for my varsity games while serving as visiting team/official host.

*Additionally I report our girls scores to the appropriate media outlets and record the statistics to Maxpreps.com along with putting out a league-wide update.

PM me and I'll give you some recommendations with regards to making sure both gyms are staffed with qualified personnel regardless of level.

[chseagle]

The only time I have gotten paid to do Varsity was at 3A/4A Regionals. The one Varsity game I did last year as timer at CHS I was volunteer. All the time I do shot clock for Varsity, I'm volunteer.

I've been out of high school for 10 years, & could really care less if I was getting paid or not. I do it as a service to the school/community.

Others unfortunately only care about lining their pockets

The only pay anyone working table should get is free admission & free snacks from the concession stand, nothing more. As far as I'm concerned the only ones that should be getting paid are the floor officials since they have to go through all the training & certification to be there.

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You won't find many associations that will mandate adults for sub-varsity because..well its sub-varsity. While the games are important to those playing the game, it's still not as important as varsity in the grand scheme of things.

I guess if you wanted to get more adults to do the lower level games, you could make sure they get paid for those games. Even still, some people wouldn't want to do it. You can place restrictions like mandating someone do two games, but when that pool of those that want to be at the table is small as it is, placing restrictions doesn't help. Plus paying an adult for the sub-varsity as well would be an additional cost that schools would have to pay. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather have 3 officials for varsity than have that money go to having an adult for a sub-varsity game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You won't find many associations that will mandate adults for sub-varsity because..well its sub-varsity. While the games are important to those playing the game, it's still not as important as varsity in the grand scheme of things.

I guess if you wanted to get more adults to do the lower level games, you could make sure they get paid for those games. Even still, some people wouldn't want to do it. You can place restrictions like mandating someone do two games, but when that pool of those that want to be at the table is small as it is, placing restrictions doesn't help. Plus paying an adult for the sub-varsity as well would be an additional cost that schools would have to pay. And I don't know about you, but I'd rather have 3 officials for varsity than have that money go to having an adult for a sub-varsity game.

It's just like those who say, "We need good officials to work the JV games" but the truth is that those who work varsity games typically are working varsity games and on the nights they're not, they're enjoying a night off.

[APG]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's just like those who say, "We need good officials to work the JV games" but the truth is that those who work varsity games typically are working varsity games and on the nights they're not, they're enjoying a night off.

Totally agree!

[chseagle]

Yeah, more often than not, Varsity level officials only work Varsity games. Although there are still a few out there that work both Sub-V & V.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's just like those who say, "We need good officials to work the JV games" but the truth is that those who work varsity games typically are working varsity games and on the nights they're not, they're enjoying a night off.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

It's just like those who say, "We need good officials to work the JV games" but the truth is that those who work varsity games typically are working varsity games and on the nights they're not, they're enjoying a night off.

Not that way here. You're expected to work games at any level assigned. Refuse too many and you may find yourself losing future assignments.