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[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

If I can, I'll avoid a T if it's reasonable that the coach doesn't know our mechanics. Then, get the ball inbounds quickly...

While I get what you're saying...the coach's ignorance is his problem, not ours. If his behavior is out of line, ignorance notwithstanding, it needs to be addressed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

While I get what you're saying...the coach's ignorance is his problem, not ours. If his behavior is out of line, ignorance notwithstanding, it needs to be addressed.

Right, and I have no problem with a coach asking questions out of legitimate ignorance.

However, when his ignorance is combined with anger and sarcasm....
No.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

I'm not real happy with my "smart mouth and shortness" with coaches this year. I've noticed since I decided at the start to quit taking so much s&*^ from them beginning this year - that my retorts probably don't help.

Examples from last night..

1. Called defense post foul - coach says she thinks we are calling too tight - is there no touch allowed - I respond that we are playing basketball - She then asks again - I retort same answer as above - she says "I should've known - I then say to her to be careful coach...

2. Opposite coach - still angry over a non call from my partner - wanted me to help him - I had nothing either... anyway front court ball goes oob on my sideline - he meets me where I call it out and folds arms stating loudly that now I'm willing to help him - I retort that it is my call my sideline and that he needs to not worry about our coverage areas...

3. Same coach as above - getting smoked - down by 20 or so with other teams 2nd string in and still pressing with about 1 minute to go - loudly calls a time out - stairs at me and points to the clock as I administer time out. I retort that it (the press) is not our problem...

Thoughts for an official looking to improve handling coaches who constantly chirp even when they don't have a clue

1. I bet the coach asked the same question and expected a different answer. Silly coach. I likely would have ignored the "...should've..." comment.

2. Good response in my opinion.

3. He's pissed and simply wants to vent some anger before he talks to his player and before he leaves the gym. I prefer general comments like "I'm just here to referee, coach" or, just "not my problem".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Thoughts for an official looking to improve handling coaches who constantly chirp even when they don't have a clue

When a coach does not know when to pick their spots, either ignore them or address their behavior.

All these lines are great and work well I am sure for the officials that use them, but I have found that most of them do not work universally. Work within your personality. If being a hard *** works use that. If being a soft spoken guy works, use that. If saying nothing works, use that. All situations are not the same and all coaches will not respond the same. And some of this only works because you have a reputation that a coach will respect. Nothing works all the time or some of the time. It is something you will constantly have to work on and figure out what works for you.

Peace