First elbow

[Back In The Saddle]

Is anybody seeing a problem with elbows at the HS level?

[Refsmitty]

Called it last year - this year just seeing the swinging - more so with girls than guys - must be the way they are taught. Have warned so far...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Refsmitty

Called it last year - this year just seeing the swinging - more so with girls than guys - must be the way they are taught. Have warned so far...

I think we see it more with girls because:

1) Their hands are smaller and weaker, so they can't hold onto the ball as well.

2) They don't jump as high, so they don't secure the rebound "above" the other players.

3) Because of 1 and 2, the team not getting the rebound initially (the defense) takes a swipe at the ball.

4) We as officials do not do a good job of getting the defense off / away from the offense once the ball is secure.

5) To keep the ball, the offense puts the elbows out and pivots. The pivot sometimes turns into a swing.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Is anybody seeing a problem with elbows at the HS level?

Nope.

Peace

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Is anybody seeing a problem with elbows at the HS level?

...maybe not a "problem"...but, had a boys H.S. Varsity player last week-end throw, pivot, swing his elbow three times and in the order described.

Our 3-whistle crew missed the first "throw"...A1 had the ball in his front court down in the corner and apparently threw and elbow while he had the ball. I was Lead, and as I was handing the ball to B1 for a Throw-in, he asked me to watch A1 "throwing elbows". This was confirmed by officials, in the stands, that told us at half-time A1 did indeed "throw" an elbow.

The second "pivot" with elbow...I passed on, as C, because I did not think it was intentional or "up high", and there was no contact.

The third "swing" came as A1 was dribbling into the key and pivoted with a swing that made contact with B1's chest. I got the "player control" foul, from the Lead position. (There was no double whistle)