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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 01:52pm
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The NH rule is that if the mouth piece comes out of mouth during a live ball it is a timeout given to the offending team. Had a point guard last year take his out to call a play and my partner issued a time out to his team. The point guard then found away to call the plays with his mouthpiece in.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 01:59pm
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The NH rule is that if the mouth piece comes out of mouth during a live ball it is a timeout given to the offending team.
do you know what the rationale is for this rule?
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 02:18pm
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Years ago, when I was actively participating as one of the most prolific 3-point shooters ever, I wore a mouthpiece. I wanted to wear one for protection so I got a custom (Air Force paid) mouthpiece. I would put my mouthpiece in while getting dressed and take it out when getting undressed. I would also tuck my shirt in, raise my arms bringing it back out for comfort, and leave it alone. Mysteriously, neither my shirt or my mouthpiece were ever issues. I guess I would have paid more attention to them if I could score some points with them!

All of this style over substance is STUPID!
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 02:30pm
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do you know what the rationale is for this rule?
I know in Vermont, there was a report issued to the Vermont Principals Association, which governs all student activities, that indicated that in contact sports such as basketball, the proper usage of a mouth guard could reduce the severity of an injury. To avoid the possibility of a lawsuit from an injured player, this was mandated by VPA. Thus, officials will be forever required to enforce it. It will not be undone as VPA received a report, however accurate, that mouthguards could reduce the effect of contact causing injuries. Players have gotten waivers from this for medical reasons and written permission is carried with the teams at all times. Officials are notified of specific players exempted from this rule via email broadcast and at meetings.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 03:32pm
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do you know what the rationale is for this rule?
Just guessing on this, of course:

Player removes mouthpiece = nasty, germ-filled saliva on player's hands = germs transferred to basketball = everyone handling the ball comes down with mysterious illness (including the totally innocent officials)

Reason for rule: Leave the darn thing in so your germs aren't spread all over the gym or get a time-out charged each time you remove it. After the coach loses a TO or two, I'm thinking the player and his germs will be sitting on the bench until he learns to leave the mouthpiece in his mouth where it actually belongs.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 03:35pm
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I'm guessing the rule is to have the players keep their mouthguards in their mouth, so it can properly guard. As opposed to in their hands, where it would be protecting their fingers from each other.
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I'm guessing the rule is to have the players keep their mouthguards in their mouth, so it can properly guard. As opposed to in their hands, where it would be protecting their fingers from each other.
My guess is that it's a safety rule, too many kids were not wearing them appropriately, so the state put in a penalty to encourage the coach to take care of the problem.
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2010, 06:42pm
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My guess is that it's a safety rule, too many kids were not wearing them appropriately, so the state put in a penalty to encourage the coach to take care of the problem.
Not only that, but some kids cut them to only fit over the front 4 teeth. The VT rule specifies that it must protect the molars as well. Had one instance where the home AD had extras that he provided so that the game could be played. {And, no they were not used ones.}
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No they were not used ones.
This reminds me of back when I was teaching.

Student: Mr. BillyMac. Can I please borrow a Kleenex?
Mr. BillyMac: No. Keep it. I don't want it back.

And then, there's the good, old, dependable, favorite, knee slapper:

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Mr. BillyMac: Yes.

It was really nice to have a new audience every September. Nice to be able to recycle jokes. To me they were old jokes. To them, they were new jokes.
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Old Fri Dec 10, 2010, 06:10pm
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Just guessing on this, of course:

Player removes mouthpiece = nasty, germ-filled saliva on player's hands = germs transferred to basketball = everyone handling the ball comes down with mysterious illness (including the totally innocent officials)

Reason for rule: Leave the darn thing in so your germs aren't spread all over the gym or get a time-out charged each time you remove it.
based on this rationale, I would assume that kids in Vermont are required to wear ski gloves while playing so as not to spread the germs that can be on their hands from doing such vile activities such as sneezing, pre-game handshakes, dribbling a basketball which has been in contact with a floor that has been walked on by people who have dared to wear shoes outside of the gym.

on second thought, the ski gloves are probably contaminated after coming in contact with road salt, school buses/cars which undoubtably have oil or gas residue, and have been chewed on by household pets.....

on third thought, let's play the games in EPA certified, hermitcally-sealed hazmat suits that contain 100% oxygen systems...we certainly don't want Dustin Hoffman and Renee Russo showing up at a high school game in Burlington, VT. in order to administer E-1101 anti-syrum to eradicate the Ebola virus....

OR... maybe we can just let the kids use mouthguards without all of the superflous rules....c'mon...where are the "less government intervention people"? I'm sure the old guy who said last year "keep your government hands off my Medicare" can be convince to shout "keep you government hands off my gradnsons' mouthpiece"...whaddaya think?

OK... my rant is over and I can now officially start my weekend!
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Old Sat Dec 11, 2010, 08:55pm
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based on this rationale, I would assume that kids in Vermont are required to wear ski gloves while playing so as not to spread the germs that can be on their hands from doing such vile activities such as sneezing, pre-game handshakes, dribbling a basketball which has been in contact with a floor that has been walked on by people who have dared to wear shoes outside of the gym.

on second thought, the ski gloves are probably contaminated after coming in contact with road salt, school buses/cars which undoubtably have oil or gas residue, and have been chewed on by household pets.....

on third thought, let's play the games in EPA certified, hermitcally-sealed hazmat suits that contain 100% oxygen systems...we certainly don't want Dustin Hoffman and Renee Russo showing up at a high school game in Burlington, VT. in order to administer E-1101 anti-syrum to eradicate the Ebola virus....

OR... maybe we can just let the kids use mouthguards without all of the superflous rules....c'mon...where are the "less government intervention people"? I'm sure the old guy who said last year "keep your government hands off my Medicare" can be convince to shout "keep you government hands off my gradnsons' mouthpiece"...whaddaya think?

OK... my rant is over and I can now officially start my weekend!
I don't know about Ebola, but you might want to think about hepatitis A and B, not to mention whatever that kid I saw last night might contract from constantly taking his mouthguard out and then chewing on one end, then putting it in again. Oh, and there is always the possibility of someone slipping on that slobbery rubber thing on the floor - before he puts it back in his mouth. Yeah, lets just worry about some blood on a uniform.
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