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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 11:29am
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It seems to me that this question really is applicable to any situation where an official has a play in his secondary where his partner, whose primary it is, comes late to the play. And in NCAA-W mechanics, you can have this exact play even with three person.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 11:41am
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It's enough that I would call the foul, from that description. That's exactly what the FED has been trying to get us to do through numerous, almost yearly POE's.

But that's just me.
It's why I said (A). I have a foul before that ball gets in there.

I've been working hard in the early season to clean up post play and screening. I had 4 illegal screens against one team in one half in a boys game last week and the coach could only tell his players to clean it up, that it was obvious I was going to call it.

A knee in the butt is a foul. I'll talk once if I'm the L. If I'm the T picking up secondary coverage and there's a hold or a knee in the butt, I'm calling a foul.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 11:44am
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It's enough that I would call the foul, from that description. That's exactly what the FED has been trying to get us to do through numerous, almost yearly POE's.
+1.

OK, so you might have to give it your very best sell. OK, you might have to explain to the coach you extended your primary into your partner's area to help with off-ball coverage. If there is displacement in the post, we've got to go in and clean it up.
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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 11:50am
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OK, so you might have to give it your very best sell. OK, you might have to explain to the coach you extended your primary into your partner's area to help with off-ball coverage. If there is displacement in the post, we've got to go in and clean it up.
We can use the terms secondary and primary all we want, but the truth is, in 2-person, our primary frequently involves the 8 players off ball. If the ball is in the corner and the L is covering that matchup (which he must) my primary includes all the other players not in the line of sight of that L.

2-person forces us to extend at times in ways we would never extend in 3-person. No apologies from me. I'll come in hard and sell the call, but I'm not explaining coverage areas to a coach.
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It's enough that I would call the foul, from that description. That's exactly what the FED has been trying to get us to do through numerous, almost yearly POE's.

But that's just me.

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Old Wed Dec 08, 2010, 08:46am
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If the foul caused the travel, then you need to get the foul.

I think that's mostly option B
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