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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 10:41am
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Throw-in Reset

Situation: After timeout official fails to designate spot for throw in. Official hands ball to Thrower A1 which he/she proceeds to run the endline. Official sounds whistle and basiclly gives team A a mulligan and tells the thrower that it is a spot throw in. Is the official correct? I tend to think so because the Official's manual 2.2.2 A.2 states the "The spot should be designated by the administering official." Is this similar to when the official announces to the players during a free throw "1" or "2" shots or even fails to tell them?
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 10:59am
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Some may argue that the throw-in should be assumed to be a 'designated spot' throw-in unless otherwise stated by the official.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 11:10am
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Personally, I would be inclined to call the violation on this. To me, it's more like failing to count the number of players before starting play.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 11:17am
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It certainly looks better if you tell them it's a designated spot. But they still violated.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 11:27am
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it certainly looks better if you tell them it's a designated spot. But they still violated.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 01:17pm
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I've had a lot of players ask me this year whether or not they are allowed to run the end line on a throw in.

Would this be a "teaching moment" for lower level games?
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 01:19pm
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I've had a lot of players ask me this year whether or not they are allowed to run the end line on a throw in.

Would this be a "teaching moment" for lower level games?
Depending on how "lower" you're talking, but perhaps. A quick "you only get that after they make a basket" might fit.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 01:22pm
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I've had a lot of players ask me this year whether or not they are allowed to run the end line on a throw in.

Would this be a "teaching moment" for lower level games?
I always (well, assuming it's after a TO or similar and I'm administering the throw-in) answer that question, at every level.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 01:42pm
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I always (well, assuming it's after a TO or similar and I'm administering the throw-in) answer that question, at every level.
I always communicate the type of throw-in to A1 on any endline throw-in from the backcourt.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 01:48pm
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I always (well, assuming it's after a TO or similar and I'm administering the throw-in) answer that question, at every level.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 02:11pm
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I always (well, assuming it's after a TO or similar and I'm administering the throw-in) answer that question, at every level.
Right. Not saying I would ever ignore the question.

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I always communicate the type of throw-in to A1 on any endline throw-in from the backcourt.
Sounds like a good habit to get into.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 02:12pm
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I've had a lot of players ask me this year whether or not they are allowed to run the end line on a throw in.

Would this be a "teaching moment" for lower level games?
I'll answer this each and every time regardless of what level. This assumes I haven't already informed the thrower to whether or not it is a designated spot throw-in.

What is the rationale for not answering this simple question?
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 02:17pm
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I'll answer this each and every time regardless of what level. This assumes I haven't already informed the thrower to whether or not it is a designated spot throw-in.

What is the rationale for not answering this simple question?
I don't ignore the question. What I meant by a "teaching moment" was, if the violation happens at a lower level, would you stop the game, re-iterate the rule, and then go on? Or just call the violation, even after saying "Hold your spot"
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 02:23pm
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I've had a lot of players ask me this year whether or not they are allowed to run the end line on a throw in.

Would this be a "teaching moment" for lower level games?
Naw, just answer them. It's a legitimate question...no more, no less...and it only takes a second to respond. But if they violate, as Scappy said, you do have to call it.
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Old Tue Dec 07, 2010, 02:24pm
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I don't ignore the question. What I meant by a "teaching moment" was, if the violation happens at a lower level, would you stop the game, re-iterate the rule, and then go on? Or just call the violation, even after saying "Hold your spot"
Gotcha. I'd probably go ahead and call the violation, especially if I told the thrower what type of throw-in it was. You better believe they'll know the rule after you call the violation haha
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