Trainwreck, what's the call

[mcdanrd]

This is why you're "just a coach"

[Pantherdreams]

The last thing I want to discuss is what we all feel the word "muffed" means . . .

In my mind I'm imagining, a tipped or missed pass that results in the train wreck and a ball now loose.

So you've got a hapless defender no sprawled out on the floor, a clumsy/unlucky offensive player sprawled on the floor and a ball bouncing/bounding/ rolling loose.

Above and beyond the rest of the conversation about who, what when and where. No one here seems particularly or clearly disadvantaged or more impeded more or less then anyone else as the game progresses. Unless you have concerns over rough play, enjoy the calamity and play on.

No call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

The last thing I want to discuss is what we all feel the word "muffed" means . . .

In my mind I'm imagining, a tipped or missed pass that results in the train wreck and a ball now loose.

So you've got a hapless defender no sprawled out on the floor, a clumsy/unlucky offensive player sprawled on the floor and a ball bouncing/bounding/ rolling loose.

Above and beyond the rest of the conversation about who, what when and where. No one here seems particularly or clearly disadvantaged or more impeded more or less then anyone else as the game progresses. Unless you have concerns over rough play, enjoy the calamity and play on.

No call.

"Hapless defender?" I think the defender did his job, within the rules, and is now punished by being knocked to the floor.
Here's what I see.
Offensive player clearly responsible for contact.
Defensive player clearly within his rights.
Both players end up on the floor.
This is a clear advantage for the offense by knocking the defender to the ground. Regardless of rough play concerns, I've got a TC foul here unless A3 makes a clear attempt to stop upon contact with B3.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mcdanrd

This is why you're "just a coach"

Really? That seems out of line from my POV.

[mcdanrd]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? That seems out of line from my POV.

Yep, you're right. I apologize.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mcdanrd

Yep, you're right. I apologize.

Well, Lord knows I've done it, too.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by mcdanrd

This is why you're "just a coach"

FYI, this marks my 5th year as a patched official. I joined this forum while still practicing the black arts of coaching. I am patriarch of a ref dynasty of 3 sons, the oldest of whom, at 19, is working a full V large school schedule.
Your recantation of the snide remark accepted in advance.
I certainly feel I have earned the privilige of delving into the murky deep waters surrounding the philosophical basis of officiating and inciting a meaningful discussion, discounting your comments.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by justacoach

I certainly feel I have earned the privilige of delving into the murky deep waters surrounding the philosophical basis of officiating and inciting a meaningful discussion

You certainly have. But you should probably read the rest of the thread before you respond to him again. He recanted (or at least apologized) an hour and a half before your last post. Don't you love a happy ending?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You certainly have. But you should probably read the rest of the thread before you respond to him again. He recanted (or at least apologized) an hour and a half before your last post. Don't you love a happy ending?

You're right. Remind me to activate the scroll gesture on my PDA and use my glasses!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Don't you love a happy ending?

No.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

No.

Agitator.