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Old Sun Dec 05, 2010, 10:24am
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Grunewar, the timer still has to tell the scoreboard controls about the timeout for the TO Timer to start.
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The scoreboard systems I know that have the TO Timer & Auto horn w/15 secs. left are the Daktronics units. What other units are there?
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I would still rather use my watch's stopwatch or the stopwatch function on my iPod though over the system on the scoreboard.
I don't care if you use a stopwatch or your watch, but when I'm the R, I instruct all iPods, iPhones, PDA's and cell phones to be gone.
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The iPod Touch has a stopwatch function on it, so if that was what was being used for a stopwatch you couldn't disallow it.

Two years ago when the scoreboard malfunctioned during Regionals, we were using iPhones & iPod Touch as timing devices, so sometimes just have to go with flow & with what's available, although I was using the stopwatch on my watch for TOs.

This is the first season I've had my iPod Touch so I'm still deciding on whether to use it or my watch for TO Timer.

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Don't care.

I don't care if you use a stopwatch or your watch, but when I'm the R, I instruct all iPods, iPhones, PDA's and cell phones to be gone.
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Old Sun Dec 05, 2010, 10:55am
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The iPod Touch has a stopwatch function on it, so if that was what was being used for a stopwatch you couldn't disallow it.

Two years ago when the scoreboard malfunctioned during Regionals, we were using iPhones & iPod Touch as timing devices, so sometimes just have to go with flow & with what's available, although I was using the stopwatch on my watch for TOs.

This is the first season I've had my iPod Touch so I'm still deciding on whether to use it or my watch for TO Timer.
I've got one too, and it's a great distraction from class, on the train, etc. That's exactly why officials might ban devices like that at the scorer's table. In fact I might start doing that myself, especially since I work a lot of underlevel games at which students are running the clock/doing the book.
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Old Sun Dec 05, 2010, 11:17am
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My using the iPod Touch for the timeout timer will depend on various factors (will be testing the first 2-3 games of the season). The case I have it in when out'n'about is one of those active lifestyle cases that goes on the wrist. Of course, I'll still have my watch to use as well.

I only play the music on it in the car or at home, when out I use it for an additional watch, for the calculator when figuring out finances/sales tax, or as a countdown timer if waiting on something time-specific.

I turn my phone completely off when at the table. I did make a mention to the AD & principal when meeting with them about this season, that there's been a problem with the students using their phones &/or having their friends with them at the table were working as scorer.

So the question is then, which is more distracting: a phone/mp3 player or a friend?

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I've got one too, and it's a great distraction from class, on the train, etc. That's exactly why officials might ban devices like that at the scorer's table. In fact I might start doing that myself, especially since I work a lot of underlevel games at which students are running the clock/doing the book.
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My using the iPod Touch for the timeout timer will depend on various factors (will be testing the first 2-3 games of the season). The case I have it in when out'n'about is one of those active lifestyle cases that goes on the wrist. Of course, I'll still have my watch to use as well.

I only play the music on it in the car or at home, when out I use it for an additional watch, for the calculator when figuring out finances/sales tax, or as a countdown timer if waiting on something time-specific.

I turn my phone completely off when at the table. I did make a mention to the AD & principal when meeting with them about this season, that there's been a problem with the students using their phones &/or having their friends with them at the table were working as scorer.

So the question is then, which is more distracting: a phone/mp3 player or a friend?
Simply fascinating. How do you carry your TASER to ensure proper coach, player, official and AD compliance? Cross draw? Strong side? Weak side? Concealed?
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The TASER is being installed in my iPod LMAO

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Simply fascinating. How do you carry your TASER to ensure proper coach, player, official and AD compliance? Cross draw? Strong side? Weak side? Concealed?
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Old Sun Dec 05, 2010, 08:12pm
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So the question is then, which is more distracting: a phone/mp3 player or a friend?
Both; I'd be inclined to ban them, too, although I hadn't thought of it so much. And to quote the President in response to your statement that we can't ban them; "Yes we can."

If you get an official who does so, you can always appeal to him by saying you're using it as a timing device for timeouts, but be prepared to use your watch.

It's not just the phone that can be distracting, and I don't know the scorer from Adam, so how am I supposed to know whether he plays games or surfs the internet in his spare time? I don't, so I'd be less likely to be flexible on this.

Even in a lower level game, there's bound to be someone in the gym with a wrist watch. If not, I've worked my share of games where the timer didn't have a stop watch and would prefer that to a distracted timer.
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LMAO, I thought this forum, as a whole, was not to be turned political??

All that would have to be done is show the stopwatch function on the iPod before the game.

In the situation here where we have the shot clock for both men & women as well as the game clock, there might be no other choice but to use the stopwatch function on the iPod/iPhone, if due to technical difficulties the scoreboard is non-operational.

As I stated in an earlier post, I am thinking of using the iPod as a TO Timer for 1-2 games as a test. However I won't make that decision until game time.

Going OT: Apparently the Harlem Globetrotters are doing a penalty box & 4-pt. shot for the 2011 World Tour.

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Both; I'd be inclined to ban them, too, although I hadn't thought of it so much. And to quote the President in response to your statement that we can't ban them; "Yes we can."

If you get an official who does so, you can always appeal to him by saying you're using it as a timing device for timeouts, but be prepared to use your watch.

It's not just the phone that can be distracting, and I don't know the scorer from Adam, so how am I supposed to know whether he plays games or surfs the internet in his spare time? I don't, so I'd be less likely to be flexible on this.

Even in a lower level game, there's bound to be someone in the gym with a wrist watch. If not, I've worked my share of games where the timer didn't have a stop watch and would prefer that to a distracted timer.
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All that would have to be done is show the stopwatch function on the iPod before the game.
That would only work if my reason for not allowing it was doubt, but it's not. I don't doubt that you have such an app. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there really was a fully functioning tazer app for the iPhone. That's not the issue, the issue is the rest of its functionality and ability to distract during a game. Frankly, I couldn't care less, and the younger the timer, the less inclined I'd be to allow it.
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LMAO, I thought this forum, as a whole, was not to be turned political??

All that would have to be done is show the stopwatch function on the iPod before the game.

In the situation here where we have the shot clock for both men & women as well as the game clock, there might be no other choice but to use the stopwatch function on the iPod/iPhone, if due to technical difficulties the scoreboard is non-operational.

As I stated in an earlier post, I am thinking of using the iPod as a TO Timer for 1-2 games as a test. However I won't make that decision until game time.

Going OT: Apparently the Harlem Globetrotters are doing a penalty box & 4-pt. shot for the 2011 World Tour. BTW what should the foul be if you de-pants an opponent?

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Both; I'd be inclined to ban them, too, although I hadn't thought of it so much. And to quote the President in response to your statement that we can't ban them; "Yes we can."

If you get an official who does so, you can always appeal to him by saying you're using it as a timing device for timeouts, but be prepared to use your watch.

It's not just the phone that can be distracting, and I don't know the scorer from Adam, so how am I supposed to know whether he plays games or surfs the internet in his spare time? I don't, so I'd be less likely to be flexible on this.

Even in a lower level game, there's bound to be someone in the gym with a wrist watch. If not, I've worked my share of games where the timer didn't have a stop watch and would prefer that to a distracted timer.
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I've got one too, and it's a great distraction from class, on the train, etc. That's exactly why officials might ban devices like that at the scorer's table. In fact I might start doing that myself, especially since I work a lot of underlevel games at which students are running the clock/doing the book.
If you do that, you might want to think about investing $5 in a cheap stopwatch; especially if you do a signicant number of these games. I have a feeling I'll be breaking back in with some middle school games, so I think I'll be doing just that this winter.
If you don't, be prepared for the only timing device to be someone's smart phone. Not that it's likely, but it's possible. I'd probably allow it in that case, with the caveat that if the timer uses it for anything else during the game, he'll be replaced and we'll go without a timing device.
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