Travel, carry, or nothing?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

That's all good and I agree, however, in the OP the player never fumbled the ball, the ball never drops or slips from a player's grasp. That's why I say travel.

When did the dribble end?

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

When did the dribble end?

When the ball came to rest in A1's hand.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

When the ball came to rest in A1's hand.

But did it? I'm assuming that A1 is attempting to push the ball down in a dribble. It's not resting in his hand, it's resting on B1's hip. There's a difference.

[The R]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But did it? I'm assuming that A1 is attempting to push the ball down in a dribble. It's not resting in his hand, it's resting on B1's hip. There's a difference.

Yes A1's hand is on top of the ball attempting to keep dribbling towards the goal. B1's hip ,whom was running beside, got between the ball and the floor during the dribble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by The R

Yes A1's hand is on top of the ball attempting to keep dribbling towards the goal. B1's hip ,whom was running beside, got between the ball and the floor during the dribble.

Yeah, in that case, I've got an on-going dribble and thus no travel.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But did it? I'm assuming that A1 is attempting to push the ball down in a dribble. It's not resting in his hand, it's resting on B1's hip. There's a difference.

What if A1 was attempting to push the ball down and his own d#mn hip got in the way?

[The R]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

What if A1 was attempting to push the ball down and his own d#mn hip got in the way?

That one would be a travel if they continued to take steps or an illegal dribble if they attempted to dribble again.

A1 would have control in this case which would end the dribble.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

What if A1 was attempting to push the ball down and his own d#mn hip got in the way?

I'd call at travel on this, just as if he held it between his hand and stomach, or leg. But his hip does not equal B1's hip.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'd call at travel on this, just as if he held it between his hand and stomach, or leg. But his hip does not equal B1's hip.

I agree. If it's his hip then he's caused the ball to be at rest in his hand, ending his dribble.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

But did it? I'm assuming that A1 is attempting to push the ball down in a dribble. It's not resting in his hand, it's resting on B1's hip. There's a difference.

And what if the hip is considered part of the leg and B-1 intentionally moved in the direction of the ball? Do you have a kicking violation? Clumsy is not a foul. And snaqs' corollary 'ugly is not a violation' seems to be the way to go on this play.