Any Rule Against This Lame Tactic?

[Nevadaref]

ART. 14 . . . An unsporting foul is a noncontact technical foul which consists
of unfair, unethical, dishonorable conduct or any behavior not in accordance with
the spirit of fair play.

If the official judges that the yelling meets this definition, then there is clear rules support for assessing a technical foul.

[Adam]

Sure, you can. But the question of whether you should is a different one altogether. Check local listings.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sure, you can. But the question of whether you should is a different one altogether. Check local listings.

POE #1 Rules Enforcement
POE #2 Sporting Behavior

So if one believe that the action constitutes unsporting behavior, why would one not make the call? Is there a fear of what someone else thinks?

A cranky, old poster would say that anyone who officiates that way might as well shove the whistle up his backside.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

POE #1 Rules Enforcement
POE #2 Sporting Behavior

So if one believe that the action constitutes unsporting behavior, why would one not make the call? Is there a fear of what someone else thinks?

Yes, the assignor. And the question of why I would be the only person calling such a thing for a player yelling.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yes, the assignor. And the question of why I would be the only person calling such a thing for a player yelling.

I wouldn't advise anyone to officiate in fear of the assignor. If you call what you see and what you believe is right, then a good assignor will back you. If you don't receive that support, then you will be better off not working for that person.

Ask rockyroad.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I wouldn't advise anyone to officiate in fear of the assignor. If you call what you see and what you believe is right, then a good assignor will back you. If you don't receive that support, then you will be better off not working for that person.

Ask rockyroad.

Fear has nothing to do with this situation. It has to do with common sense. And it does not display much common sense for calling a T for this. I would have the same reaction if I heard someone gave a T and I do not assign a single game from others if I do not work for one guy anymore. But yelling at a player is has not even been considered unsportsmanlike while the player is shooting. I have never seen such interpretation to support such an action. Of course you could go there (based on the rules you referenced), but if you played any basketball in your life, people use their voice from time to time. And yes, they yell at the shooter some time. Next thing you are going to tell me a player cannot yell out anything to their teammates.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I would have the same reaction if I heard someone gave a T and I do not assign a single game from others if I do not work for one guy anymore.

I actually agree with you on this one, I think.

But what the hell does the above sentence mean?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I wouldn't advise anyone to officiate in fear of the assignor. If you call what you see and what you believe is right, then a good assignor will back you. If you don't receive that support, then you will be better off not working for that person.

But if what you believe is right is actually considered completely and totally wrong by accepted officiating practice, then a good assignor will put your OOO azz into middle school games where you can't further embarrass him or his association.

I'm a good assignor. You might work for me again but it sureashell wouldn't be in a meaningful game if you ever pulled crap like that and insisted you'd do it again under the same circumstances.

There really does exist what is known as the "expected call". And the expected call in this particular case sureashell ain't an unsporting "T".

My personal recommendation is to check with your local rules interpreter before even thinking of following Nevada's advice on this one. That might just save you a future ton of grief.

[bainsey]

The only time I've ever seen this was on a free throw. I had the delayed disconcertion violation, but the free throw was good, so I simply spoke with the kid.

We are instructed here to T up repeated yelling when it's obviously designed to taunt ("dead dead dead"), but it's questionable whether this is applicable in the OP.

Here's a thought. If A-1 goes on an easy breakaway, and Coach B spews profanity along the way, we are supposed to hold the T until after the shot. Let's say, in the OP, the shooter misses the shot. What about using judgment that the yelling caused this miss? (If the shot is good, what's wrong with merely speaking to young yeller?)

By the way, I never bothered to ask this: "OOO?"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

POE #1 Rules Enforcement
POE #2 Sporting Behavior

So if one believe that the action constitutes unsporting behavior, why would one not make the call? Is there a fear of what someone else thinks?

A cranky, old poster would say that anyone who officiates that way might as well shove the whistle up his backside.

You mean this one?

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

OOO

I was going to suggest that cranky old poster would also say not to be the only official in your area making this call.

Fortunately, I read to the end of the thread before commenting this morning:

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

But if what you believe is right is actually considered completely and totally wrong by accepted officiating practice, then a good assignor will put your OOO azz into middle school games where you can't further embarrass him or his association.

I'm a good assignor. You might work for me again but it sureashell wouldn't be in a meaningful game if you ever pulled crap like that and insisted you'd do it again under the same circumstances.

There really does exist what is known as the "expected call". And the expected call in this particular case sureashell ain't an unsporting "T".

My personal recommendation is to check with your local rules interpreter before even thinking of following Nevada's advice on this one. That might just save you a future ton of grief.