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JohnDorian37 Wed Dec 01, 2010 09:57pm

Any Rule Against This Lame Tactic?
 
See it with younger kids--a late defender has no play on a shot so s/he claps his/her hands and yells in the ear of the shooter.

Anything wrong with this from a rules standpoint? (NFHS)

JRutledge Wed Dec 01, 2010 09:59pm

No.

Peace

Nevadaref Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:16pm

Unsporting technical foul.

BillyMac Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:24pm

Red State, Blue State ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 704481)
No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 704488)
Unsporting technical foul.

Polar opposites. Anyone care to expound? Let the games begin. This is going to be good.

JRutledge Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:27pm

Someone just yelling is a Technical foul? Where does it say that anywhere? So if a defender says "Shot" and claps their hands we are going to give the player a T? That happens in about every game at least once and I have not ever seen a T for such action. Again when in Rome......

Peace

JohnDorian37 Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 704497)
Someone just yelling is a Technical foul? Where does it say that anywhere? So if a defender says "Shot" and claps their hands we are going to give the player a T? That happens in about every game at least once and I have not ever seen a T for such action. Again when in Rome......

Peace

Well it's more than just yelling...

26 Year Gap Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:53pm

I suppose if it really bothered you, you could tell him to knock it off.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 704488)
Unsporting technical foul.


Don't go there girl, :D.

MTD, Sr.

APG Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:04pm

Unless the player is actually saying something unsporting, play on.

Adam Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:31pm

Bush league, but unless I get direction to call a foul on this, I've got nothing.

JRutledge Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37 (Post 704507)
Well it's more than just yelling...

Well you are going to be more descriptive. You said "yelling." Now if you have some specific words maybe that will change my judgment on this. Also not sure I have ever seen a player get close enough to yell in the ear of a shooter where they are so close.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 704515)
I suppose if it really bothered you, you could tell him to knock it off.

Exactly.

Peace

Nevadaref Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:40am

ART. 14 . . . An unsporting foul is a noncontact technical foul which consists
of unfair, unethical, dishonorable conduct or any behavior not in accordance with
the spirit of fair play.

If the official judges that the yelling meets this definition, then there is clear rules support for assessing a technical foul.

Adam Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:44am

Sure, you can. But the question of whether you should is a different one altogether. Check local listings.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 02, 2010 01:38am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 704536)
Sure, you can. But the question of whether you should is a different one altogether. Check local listings.

POE #1 Rules Enforcement
POE #2 Sporting Behavior

So if one believe that the action constitutes unsporting behavior, why would one not make the call? Is there a fear of what someone else thinks?

A cranky, old poster would say that anyone who officiates that way might as well shove the whistle up his backside.

JRutledge Thu Dec 02, 2010 02:21am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 704538)
POE #1 Rules Enforcement
POE #2 Sporting Behavior

So if one believe that the action constitutes unsporting behavior, why would one not make the call? Is there a fear of what someone else thinks?

Yes, the assignor. And the question of why I would be the only person calling such a thing for a player yelling.

Peace


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