NFHS Rule book error

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by mbyron

You'd almost think it was created by a rules committee...

Formalizing English usage is, IMHO, nothing like the formal rulesmaking process. It's more like an informal Saturday pick up game at the park, where that one kid who never got picked tries to explain the rules, as best he can make them out, to the bystanders. This is how Billy Packer got started. In fact, it's astonishing how many sports commentators have English degrees.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Formalizing English usage is, IMHO, nothing like the formal rulesmaking process. It's more like an informal Saturday pick up game at the park, where that one kid who never got picked tries to explain the rules, as best he can make them out, to the bystanders. This is how Billy Packer got started. In fact, it's astonishing how many sports commentators have English degrees.

With Dizzy Dean being the first of the lot.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Sorry, -2 for you: 'verbiage' is misspelled, and a line can't have a side because it's one-dimensional. Only a plane can have a side.

-1, I'll accept the mark for "verbiage."
The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court. Two inches is standard.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

-1, I'll accept the mark for "verbiage."
The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court. Two inches is standard.

True of the painted line; 4-9-2 refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The line, however, is often two dimensional on a basketball court.

Originally Posted by mbyron

Refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

When did this change into the "Geometry Forum"?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by drofficial

Rule 9-2-10 reads: "The opponent(s) of the thrower shall not have any part of his/her person through the inbounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane until the ball has been released on a throw in pass."

Originally Posted by mbyron

True of the painted line; 4-9-2 refers to the "edge" of the line, which is a line proper.

The throw-in boundary line is the painted line. The restricted plane is the inbounds side of that painted boundary-line.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

When did this change into the "Geometry Forum"?

Don't make me say it, Billy.

[kopan99]

The rule says "Plane" not "Line", so the width of the line is irrelevant. The "Inbounds" plane of the line and "out of bounds" plane of the line are the exact same plane, where both meet.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kopan99

The rule says "Plane" not "Line", so the width of the line is irrelevant. The "Inbounds" plane of the line and "out of bounds" plane of the line are the exact same plane, where both meet.

The rule says both.

[kopan99]

Thats rignt, but "Boundary-Line" is refering to which plane.

[johnsonboys03]

Wow my head is spinning!!! I never really even thought about all this. If a thow in is being taken place and the thrower steps on the line I never called a violation. But since he stepped across the Out of Bounds line but not over the In bounds line.......where is he?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

Wow my head is spinning!!! I never really even thought about all this. If a thow in is being taken place and the thrower steps on the line I never called a violation. But since he stepped across the Out of Bounds line but not over the In bounds line.......where is he?

He stepped "on" the OOB line, not across it. He's still OOB.

[johnsonboys03]

Ok so the moral of the story is that the inbound side of the line no matter the width is what matters...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by kopan99

Thats rignt, but "Boundary-Line" is refering to which plane.

It refers to the painted line, recommended to be 2 inches but sometimes larger. Sometimes it's nonexistent, in which case the plane on the out of bounds side of the boundary line is co-located with the plane on the inbounds side of the boundary line.

[johnsonboys03]

Ok I understand... thanks