NFHS 2010-11 Basketball Exam Questions

[tref]

Originally Posted by irefu2

as far as getting an advantage from cheating, how can this help you in a game? If you dont know the rules, cheat on the exam and then get in a game and misapply a rule, then shame on that person. Just my 2 cents.

+1

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

As far as getting an advantage from cheating, how can this help you in a game? If you dont know the rules, cheat on the exam and then get in a game and misapply a rule, then shame on that person. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by tref

+1

Because some assignors look at test scores to help rank their officials.

And if you don't know the rule and then misapply a rule, you've just brought your entire crew down.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Because some assignors look at test scores to help rank their officials.

And if you don't know the rule and then misapply a rule, you've just brought your entire crew down.

I agree with that as well.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Because some assignors look at test scores to help rank their officials.

And if you don't know the rule and then misapply a rule, you've just brought your entire crew down.

Yessirrrr!! My +1 was regarding, "then shame on that person."

At the same time, passing a written test HARDLY means you can officiate!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by tref

At the same time, passing a written test HARDLY means you can officiate!

I dunno. You work volleyball?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by tref

At the same time, passing a written test HARDLY means you can officiate!

True - but flunking a written test means you probably can't officiate. Of course, then you could be a coach.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Because some assignors look at test scores to help rank their officials.

I have yet to work any level and someone to ask what my test score is in any sport.

Peace

[just another ref]

I don't know how many would cheat to get it, but around here the main reason for wanting a higher test score is simple. $$$ Above 90%, certified, is one pay level. Above 80%, approved, is a few dollars per game less. Above 70%, registered, is a few dollars less than that.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I don't know how many would cheat to get it, but around here the main reason for wanting a higher test score is simple. $$$ Above 90%, certified, is one pay level. Above 80%, approved, is a few dollars per game less. Above 70%, registered, is a few dollars less than that.

Sounds like this is a bigger problem than if someone gets a score. Going to camps means much more in my state. And it is understood that an open book test is going to have people working together.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I have yet to work any level and someone to ask what my test score is in any sport.

Peace

It's not asked for, it's supplied automatically every Monday by the state to every association's commissioner.

You're system is not the same as our system. And, in fact, our by-laws do make some references to test scores. Our test is on-line and open book with at a 4 week period to finish it, so having the questions early is really a moot point around here. But it shows that it can come into play depending on what system you're involved in.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's not asked for, it's supplied automatically every Monday by the state to every association's commissioner.

You're system is not the same as our system. And, in fact, our by-laws do make some references to test scores. Our test is on-line and open book with at a 4 week period to finish it, so having the questions early is really a moot point around here. But it shows that it can come into play depending on what system you're involved in.

I understand we have a different system. But you cannot expect that I am going to care what you do when it does not affect me. Just like I cannot care if one teacher in school gives tests one way and the teacher teaching the same subject next door has a different standard. This is why people in college will take one teacher over another because of their standards they might use.

People are asking for the test in many cases (not all of course) are asking legitimately for what will help them without cheating. But we have people that jump off the deep end because they simply asked and are unaware of what others do across the country. And if I did not know that before, I really know that as the NF test does nothing for me other than to use as a study tool. And even that will be limited. Almost all my state's test questions are not going to be asked in that format. I will have to know more about the rules and knowing what the specific length of a channel on a basketball is.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand we have a different system. But you cannot expect that I am going to care what you do when it does not affect me. Just like I cannot care if one teacher in school gives tests one way and the teacher teaching the same subject next door has a different standard. This is why people in college will take one teacher over another because of their standards they might use.

People are asking for the test in many cases (not all of course) are asking legitimately for what will help them without cheating. But we have people that jump off the deep end because they simply asked and are unaware of what others do across the country. And if I did not know that before, I really know that as the NF test does nothing for me other than to use as a study tool. And even that will be limited. Almost all my state's test questions are not going to be asked in that format. I will have to know more about the rules and knowing what the specific length of a channel on a basketball is.

Peace

I didn't ask if you cared or if anyone else did. You made a statement about people never asking for your test score. To me that's irrelevant.

If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, wear the shoes you already have and let someone else try on the shoe.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

People are asking for the test in many cases (not all of course) are asking legitimately for what will help them without cheating. But we have people that jump off the deep end because they simply asked and are unaware of what others do across the country.

I'm well aware of what others do across the country. And I'm also well aware of the fact that some people(not all, of course) will cheat to gain an advantage if the exam or answers are posted here before they are slated to write it.

Maybe you need to get your blinkers off and look outside the borders of Illinois, Jeff. Just because something isn't a problem in your area doesn't mean that it couldn't be a huge problem in another area. Just Another Ref gave you a prime example where an early copy of the test could be invaluable to someone who doesn't know the rules that well and also doesn't want to put in the time to learn them. His area isn't the only area.

How about we do this? If anyone comes here asking for an early copy of the exam or answers to be posted, I'll tell 'em to screw off and you PM them and send them a copy. That should keep both of us happy.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That should keep both of us happy.

We've never actually seen you happy.