2010 - 2011 Interps

[bob jenkins]

Publisher’s Note: The National Federation of State High School Associations is the only source of official high school interpretations. They do not set aside nor modify any rule. They are made and published by the NFHS in response to situations presented.

Robert B. Gardner, Publisher, NFHS Publications © 2010

SITUATION 1: Three-tenths of a second remain on the clock in the second quarter. A1’s throw-in is “caught” by A2, released on a try, and the officials count the basket. The coaches do not protest, the officials do not confer and all participants head to their respective locker rooms. Upon returning to the court with three minutes remaining in the intermission, the opposing coach asks the officials if the basket should have counted since the ball was clearly caught and released with three-tenths of a second on the clock. The officials realize their error at this point. RULING: The goal counts; this is not a correctable-error situation as described in Rule 2-10. (2-10; 5-2-5)

SITUATION 2: A1 is discovered wearing an illegal headband during a live ball. RULING: Illegal player equipment shall not be worn and, if discovered, it must be removed immediately. If it cannot be removed immediately, the player is directed to leave the game. COMMENT: There is no provision to permit a player directed to leave the game to remain in the game by assessing a technical foul or granting a time-out. (3-3-4; 3-3-5)


SITUATION 3: A1 is fouled in the act of shooting and the try is unsuccessful. As the teams line up for the free throws, a double technical foul is called on A2 and B2. RULING: False double foul; the penalties are administered in the order in which they occurred. However, play is resumed after a double technical foul at the point of interruption. The point of interruption is the free throws awarded to A1 for the shooting foul; play resumes from the second free throw (as if the double technical foul never happened). (4-36-2b)

SITUATION 4: A1’s unsuccessful try for goal is rebounded by B1. As A1 returns to the floor after the missed try, he/she twists and then grabs the ankle and goes to the floor. B1 passes the ball to B2, who dribbles into the frontcourt and (a) attempts a try for goal which is not successful but is immediately rebounded by B4 and successfully scored; or (b) attempts a three-point try for goal which is successful. RULING: In both (a) and (b), an official stops play by sounding his/her whistle when the try for goal is released by the B player (player/team control ends on the release for a try). In (a), the successful try by B4 is not scored and play is resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (b), play is resumed with a throw-in to Team A anywhere along the end line. (5-8-2 Note)

SITUATION 5: Team A scores a field goal. A1 requests a time-out from the lead official at the exact same time that the head coach from Team B requests a time-out from the trail official. RULING: Both teams are charged a time-out. If both request a 30-second time-out, the time-out duration shall be 30 seconds. If one team requests a 60-second time-out and the other a 30, the duration shall be 60 seconds. Once a time-out is requested and granted, it shall not be revoked. (5-8-3b)

SITUATION 6: On the second attempt of a two-shot foul, the ball comes to rest on the flange. RULING: Alternating-possession throw-in; the free thrower did not violate the provisions of the free throw. (6-4-3)

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

SITUATION 4: A1’s unsuccessful try for goal is rebounded by B1. As A1 returns to the floor after the missed try, he/she twists and then grabs the ankle and goes to the floor. B1 passes the ball to B2, who dribbles into the frontcourt and (a) attempts a try for goal which is not successful but is immediately rebounded by B4 and successfully scored; or (b) attempts a three-point try for goal which is successful. RULING: In both (a) and (b), an official stops play by sounding his/her whistle when the try for goal is released by the B player (player/team control ends on the release for a try). In (a), the successful try by B4 is not scored and play is resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (b), play is resumed with a throw-in to Team A anywhere along the end line. (5-8-2 Note)

Why? Seems to me you could be giving Team A a free shot. If you are going to do this why not just kill it as soon as B1 gets the rebound?

I would like to see their rationale as to why they want it sounded after the try is released. What's another second for a player to get a rebound or see if the try is successful?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

SITUATION 5: Team A scores a field goal. A1 requests a time-out from the lead official at the exact same time that the head coach from Team B requests a time-out from the trail official. RULING: Both teams are charged a time-out. If both request a 30-second time-out, the time-out duration shall be 30 seconds. If one team requests a 60-second time-out and the other a 30, the duration shall be 60 seconds. Once a time-out is requested and granted, it shall not be revoked. (5-8-3b)

Exact, huh? That's all I need to know.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I would like to see their rationale as to why they want it sounded after the try is released. What's another second for a player to get a rebound or see if the try is successful?

Tanner, the FED is giving us direction on how to handle these injury plays in R5-8-2NOTE. Been in there forever and hasn't changed.

1) If you think the injury is serious, kill the play immediately.
2) If not, wait to kill the play when the opponents "complete a play". And that NOTE tells you when a play is completed, by rule. It states that a play is completed when a team loses control. And a team loses control as soon as a shot leaves the shooter's hands.

Rules rulz...and we just follow 'em. And if you don't, and you let a team score a rebound basket when you should have killed the play, and you're maybe in a situation where you're being evaluated or that basket could make a difference in the game, you could find yourself lip-deep in doo-doo.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

you could find yourself lip-deep in doo-doo.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Tanner, the FED is giving us direction on how to handle these injury plays in R5-8-2NOTE. Been in there forever and hasn't changed.

1) If you think the injury is serious, kill the play immediately.
2) If not, wait to kill the play when the opponents "complete a play". And that NOTE tells you when a play is completed, by rule. It states that a play is completed when a team loses control. And a team loses control as soon as a shot leaves the shooter's hands.

Rules rulz...and we just follow 'em. And if you don't, and you let a team score a rebound basket when you should have killed the play, and you're maybe in a situation where you're being evaluated or that basket could make a difference in the game, you could find yourself lip-deep in doo-doo.

This will be fun to explain. I'm envisioning a 2 on 1 break B1 makes a beautiful pass to B2 who proceeds to miss the lay up. And B1 one follows up with a nice tip in (or quick put back) which we have to wave off b/c the ball became dead after the initial miss....
This will then lead to waiting for A1 to get cleared from the floor, followed by 2 FT's for Team A and the ball out of bounds for team A while A coach is now "seatbelted"

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

This will be fun to explain. I'm envisioning a 2 on 1 break B1 makes a beautiful pass to B2 who proceeds to miss the lay up. And B1 one follows up with a nice tip in (or quick put back) which we have to wave off b/c the ball became dead after the initial miss....
This will then lead to waiting for A1 to get cleared from the floor, followed by 2 FT's for Team A and the ball out of bounds for team A while A coach is now "seatbelted"

Who cares? Seriously? We're given explicit written direction by the rulesmakers on how to handle this particular situation. If a coach complains, you simply tell them that's the rule. It's no different than any other call in that regard. We can't control what happens next after any of our calls either. If the coach wants to throw a rang, hey, what comes out of it is now on him.

An official will never get himself into trouble by following a plainly-written rule. And as I said above, if we ever allowed the follow-up to count if it meant something or while we're being evaluated, your career might go on hold for a while.

JMO...and yes, I saw your smiley. Just wanted to make a point.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Judtech

This will be fun to explain. I'm envisioning a 2 on 1 break B1 makes a beautiful pass to B2 who proceeds to miss the lay up. And B1 one follows up with a nice tip in (or quick put back) which we have to wave off b/c the ball became dead after the initial miss....

You may be thinking of the NCAA rule. The "rule" is exactly the same; however, the definition of when a play is "completed" includes an immediate rebound and put-back.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

SITUATION 1: Three-tenths of a second remain on the clock in the second quarter. A1’s throw-in is “caught” by A2, released on a try, and the officials count the basket. The coaches do not protest, the officials do not confer and all participants head to their respective locker rooms. Upon returning to the court with three minutes remaining in the intermission, the opposing coach asks the officials if the basket should have counted since the ball was clearly caught and released with three-tenths of a second on the clock. The officials realize their error at this point. RULING: The goal counts; this is not a correctable-error situation as described in Rule 2-10. (2-10; 5-2-5)

Why isn't this a correctable error? This is not a judgment call about whether the try was released before the sounding of the horn. This a rule being set aside and erroneously counting a basket. This is actually one of the very few situations that fit under "erroneously counting or canceling a score". What am I missing????

SITUATION 3: A1 is fouled in the act of shooting and the try is unsuccessful. As the teams line up for the free throws, a double technical foul is called on A2 and B2. RULING: False double foul; the penalties are administered in the order in which they occurred. However, play is resumed after a double technical foul at the point of interruption. The point of interruption is the free throws awarded to A1 for the shooting foul; play resumes from the second free throw (as if the double technical foul never happened). (4-36-2b)

Why are we resuming from the second free throw? Are they considering the double foul to be a double free throw violation????? That can't possibly be right. So what happens to A1's first free throw?

[tjones1]

The shooter still gets the first free throw... just poor wording.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Why are we resuming from the second free throw? Are they considering the double foul to be a double free throw violation????? That can't possibly be right. So what happens to A1's first free throw?

You still shoot the first shot if it hasn't already been attempted.

It only means that the subsequent play resumes after the second free throw as if nothing unusual happened....the players line up on the lane and either rebound the ball or make a throwin as normally occurs.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Why isn't this a correctable error? This is not a judgment call about whether the try was released before the sounding of the horn. This a rule being set aside and erroneously counting a basket. This is actually one of the very few situations that fit under "erroneously counting or canceling a score". What am I missing????

Good question. Perhaps they're considering it a timing mistake and not a scoring mistake.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It only means that the subsequent play resumes after the second free throw as if nothing unusual happened....the players line up on the lane and either rebound the ball or make a throwin as normally occurs.

If that's what they mean, they made a clusterdexter out of the English language. You have to do some serious mental gymnastics to get what you said out of "play resumes from the second free throw".

[BktBallRef]

"As the teams line up for the free throws..."

Should have read...

"As A1 is attempting his first free throw..."

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Publisher’s Note: The National Federation of State High School Associations is the only source of official high school interpretations. They do not set aside nor modify any rule. They are made and published by the NFHS in response to situations presented.

Robert B. Gardner, Publisher, NFHS Publications © 2010

SITUATION 1: Three-tenths of a second remain on the clock in the second quarter. A1’s throw-in is “caught” by A2, released on a try, and the officials count the basket. The coaches do not protest, the officials do not confer and all participants head to their respective locker rooms. Upon returning to the court with three minutes remaining in the intermission, the opposing coach asks the officials if the basket should have counted since the ball was clearly caught and released with three-tenths of a second on the clock. The officials realize their error at this point. RULING: The goal counts; this is not a correctable-error situation as described in Rule 2-10. (2-10; 5-2-5)

SITUATION 2: A1 is discovered wearing an illegal headband during a live ball. RULING: Illegal player equipment shall not be worn and, if discovered, it must be removed immediately. If it cannot be removed immediately, the player is directed to leave the game. COMMENT: There is no provision to permit a player directed to leave the game to remain in the game by assessing a technical foul or granting a time-out. (3-3-4; 3-3-5)


SITUATION 3: A1 is fouled in the act of shooting and the try is unsuccessful. As the teams line up for the free throws, a double technical foul is called on A2 and B2. RULING: False double foul; the penalties are administered in the order in which they occurred. However, play is resumed after a double technical foul at the point of interruption. The point of interruption is the free throws awarded to A1 for the shooting foul; play resumes from the second free throw (as if the double technical foul never happened). (4-36-2b)

SITUATION 4: A1’s unsuccessful try for goal is rebounded by B1. As A1 returns to the floor after the missed try, he/she twists and then grabs the ankle and goes to the floor. B1 passes the ball to B2, who dribbles into the frontcourt and (a) attempts a try for goal which is not successful but is immediately rebounded by B4 and successfully scored; or (b) attempts a three-point try for goal which is successful. RULING: In both (a) and (b), an official stops play by sounding his/her whistle when the try for goal is released by the B player (player/team control ends on the release for a try). In (a), the successful try by B4 is not scored and play is resumed using the alternating-possession procedure. In (b), play is resumed with a throw-in to Team A anywhere along the end line. (5-8-2 Note)

SITUATION 5: Team A scores a field goal. A1 requests a time-out from the lead official at the exact same time that the head coach from Team B requests a time-out from the trail official. RULING: Both teams are charged a time-out. If both request a 30-second time-out, the time-out duration shall be 30 seconds. If one team requests a 60-second time-out and the other a 30, the duration shall be 60 seconds. Once a time-out is requested and granted, it shall not be revoked. (5-8-3b)

SITUATION 6: On the second attempt of a two-shot foul, the ball comes to rest on the flange. RULING: Alternating-possession throw-in; the free thrower did not violate the provisions of the free throw. (6-4-3)

Although,

I find these interps informative. It is clear there must have been issues with these rules for the interps to be addressed.

I pledge I will continue to follow all published rules and interps.

Who's with me?

[7IronRef]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Although,

I find these interps informative. It is clear there must have been issues with these rules for the interps to be addressed.

I pledge I will continue to follow all published rules and interps.

Who's with me?

Sit 2. It is clear to me that officials are not reading the rule book.