Coaches Comments

[hoopsaddict]

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[JRutledge]

I do not spend a lot of time worrying about what coaches say. Usually what they say is BS because it has a motive behind it. At least that is the case when you are on the court. I think coaches will say just about anything either to accuse you of something or try to make you feel they are not mad at you. Then again that is just how I feel.

Peace

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

I'm very curious as to what others thoughts would be on this topic. Do you think a coach would say that he likes seeing you on his games even if he didn't?

Do you think a coach would ever lie to get you psychologically feel different about him or his team?

Further do you think if a coach doesn't like how you officiate or officiated a particular game he would either remain silent or tell you straight up he thought you sucked, etc. etc.?

You're kidding, right?

Yes, coaches will lie to you.

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not spend a lot of time worrying about what coaches say. Usually what they say is BS because it has a motive behind it. At least that is the case when you are on the court. I think coaches will say just about anything either to accuse you of something or try to make you feel they are not mad at you.

+1

There must be a secret manual for head coaches somewhere that tells them part of their responsibilities during the game is to "work the officials." The coaches who have no idea what this means will only throw critical comments at refs, questioning calls which they know are correct in an effort to get the officials to doubt themselves. The more refined and sophisticated coaches will also offer positive feedback from time to time, as in "good call," and so on. I presume by doing this coaches believe they are somehow gaining favor with officials which will "help" them later in the game.

Do I expect every coach to lie to me when I step onto the court? No. Do I expect every coach to try and get in my head a bit ... whether positively or negatively? Absolutely.

[truerookie]

Come on man!!

My interaction with coaches are like how I interact with cashiers.

Hello, how you doing? Have a good day..

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by truerookie

My interaction with coaches are like how I interact with cashiers. Hello, how you doing? Have a good day.

What if the cashier is a hot chick?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

Do I expect every coach to try and get in my head a bit? Absolutely.

Is part of their job description. They don't get paid if they don't try to get into your head. Parents expect it. Athletic directors expect it. Players expect it. The fourth estate expects it. The police officer in the corner expects it. If they don't do it, they're not doing their job. So we had better expect it it, and know how to deal with it. It's part of our job description. That's why we get paid the big bucks.

[Mark Padgett]

Do coaches ever say something while meaning something different on purpose to try to "work" us? DUH! That's why they're referred to as "Howler Monkeys". Here's some examples:

The Howler Monkey phrase is designated as "HM", with the English translation shown as "E".

HM: call it both ways
E: call it my way

HM: you suck ref
E: my vocabulary has not progressed since the fifth grade, so I will use a term that truly reflects my maturity level to insult you

HM: the foul count is 8 to 2
E: instead of admitting I have no clue how to teach proper defense, I will blame you so my A.D. won't fire me

HM: that's over the back (also see: that's a reach, etc.)
E: I will now try to impress my supporters with my vast knowledge of the rules by making some comments I once heard while listening to Billy Packer on television

HM: that's the worst officiated game I ever saw
E: boy, my coaching sucked tonight but you'll never get me to admit it

HM: great job, ref
E: I have you again next week and I'm sucking up

HM: that's terrible
E: I have heard that phrasing a comment in this manner might be taken by you as not being a personal comment, so I think I can get away with saying it this way and not get a technical

HM: you're terrible
E: since you are smart enough not to make a distinction between "that's terrible" and "you're terrible" and you gave me a technical for yelling "that's terrible", this time I figure I might as well get my money's worth

HM: how can you call that
E: I have no idea what you called or why - all I know is the call went against my team and I had to say something

HM: watch number 5 on the other team - he's holding my guys all night
E: none of my guys are quick enough to get around number 5

HM: you'll never work in this gym again
E: you called a great game but we lost and there's no way I'm going to let anyone blame me

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What if the cashier is a hot chick?

It will remain the same externally. However, internally, I walk away saying to myself. "That cashier was hot".

[CaRef5]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What if the cashier is a hot chick?

same procedure if the coach was a hot chick...duh

[wanja]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

Do you think a coach would say that he likes seeing you on his games even if he didn't? Do you think a coach would ever lie to get you psychologically feel different about him or his team? Further do you think if a coach doesn't like how you officiate or officiated a particular game he would either remain silent or tell you straight up he thought you sucked, etc. etc.?

All of the above. Depends on the coach and the circumstance. One lesson I learned the hard way is not assume that the coach has ulterior motives. He/she could be asking a legitimate question or even offering information that is helpful to the official and the game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by wanja

All of the above. Depends on the coach and the circumstance. One lesson I learned the hard way is not assume that the coach has ulterior motives. He/she could be asking a legitimate question or even offering information that is helpful to the official and the game.

Most of us do not have to assume, most of the time their comments are with some other motive. If that was not the case, they would ask legitimate questions without the suggestion you got something wrong. And much of the time it is with a total understanding of the rules or our mechanics. I think most veterans can tell when a question is legitimate based on the tone and the type of question. But we all know there are coaches that only complain on every call that does not go their way. I know we are not perfect, but ever call is not up for debate.

Peace

[Judtech]

There is only one coaches opinion that I am concerned about. But too be honest, I try to ignore her as much as I can too!! Thankfully, our sofa is comfortable and near the big screen TV!