Blarge administration

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

WHERE it occurred on the court is only part of whose primary call it is, and you know that.

Agreed, but isn't the mechanic and discussion solely about who's primary it is, not who actually had the right call?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agreed, but isn't the mechanic and discussion solely about who's primary it is, not who actually had the right call?

No...I don't think I have ever been in a double-whistle situation where the discussion was only "Hey, it happened inside the imaginary box on the floor that delineates my primary, not yours."

The discussions have always been along the lines of: "What have you got?" "I've got #42 sliding in under the shooter after she was airborne." "Oh, ok. You take it then."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The discussions have always been along the lines of: "What have you got?" "I've got #42 sliding in under the shooter after she was airborne." "Oh, ok. You take it then."

In my experience the conversation does not take that long in most cases. Or does not need that much explanation.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

In my experience the conversation does not take that long in most cases. Or does not need that much explanation.

Peace

That long? That's a 1.5 second conversation...M&M timed it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That long? That's a 1.5 second conversation...M&M timed it.

With arm swings?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

No...I don't think I have ever been in a double-whistle situation where the discussion was only "Hey, it happened inside the imaginary box on the floor that delineates my primary, not yours."

The discussions have always been along the lines of: "What have you got?" "I've got #42 sliding in under the shooter after she was airborne." "Oh, ok. You take it then."

Well, count me as misunderstanding the womens's mechanic then. I was under the understanding that the blarge situation was to be resolved by defering to the official who had primary coverage.

While that seems to not be they was it is implemented, how is it actually written?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Well, count me as misunderstanding the womens's mechanic then. I was under the understanding that the blarge situation was to be resolved by defering to the official who had primary coverage.

While that seems to not be they was it is implemented, how is it actually written?

That is the way it is written...but primary coverage only has so much to do with the area on the floor. And that is where you are reading too much into it.Or maybe not reading enough...the floor coverage stuff in the NCAA-W game is much more "fluid" than in the NCAA-M game where it is more "static".

I'm having trouble thinking of a better way to put it.

[doubleringer]

I was involved in a blarge at a women's summer camp. We were complimented on the fact that we handled it correctly. I think it is a good example of how the NCAA Women's side wants it called. We were in transition. I was going to L, T didn't get in to a great position, and C had a decent look at the play. C and L had a double whistle, followed by opposing mechanics (yeah, we should have held, but that doesn't always happen). We got together right away, my C said, "you're primary", and I took my blocking foul to the table.

I wasn't happy about having a blarge in a camp situation, but I think it actually helped us out in front of the evaluators that we handled it like we are supposed to according to the women's manual.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That is the way it is written...but primary coverage only has so much to do with the area on the floor. And that is where you are reading too much into it.Or maybe not reading enough...the floor coverage stuff in the NCAA-W game is much more "fluid" than in the NCAA-M game where it is more "static".

I'm having trouble thinking of a better way to put it.

I'm hearing two conflicting things in this thread.

Is it determined by primaries or not (regardless of how you define the primary)? Or do you discuss of the play itself and what each person saw?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'm hearing two conflicting things in this thread.

Is it determined by primaries or not (regardless of how you define the primary)? Or do you discuss of the play itself and what each person saw?

It IS determined by primaries...but primary is NOT just the area on the floor. It's who is involved, where they came from, etc., etc. Was it a secondary defender who stepped in there? If so, where did that defender come from and who had them?

I know you know all that. So just reading the word "primary" as only the specific area on the floor is not the correct mechanic.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'm hearing two conflicting things in this thread.

Is it determined by primaries or not (regardless of how you define the primary)? Or do you discuss of the play itself and what each person saw?

I would like for someone to actually quote how it is written. I'm assuming its in the CCA Manual for NCAA-W.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would like for someone to actually quote how it is written. I'm assuming its in the CCA Manual for NCAA-W.

If both a block and a charge are signalled (emphasis added) on the floor simultaneously, the officials shall get together and agree to give the call to the official who had the play originate in his/her primary. It is important to slow down, have eye contact with partners and not give a preliminary signal when more than one whistle may be involved.

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