Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice ...
 

We should all know by now not to repeat the same word three times in a row.

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I Only Have Eyes For You ...
 

Excellent advice for both young and old.

Sorry Billy never saw that movie.

I did see this movie. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ymanposter.jpg

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Peace

I'm guessing this is one of those regional differences. I checked the NFHS manual and they say "closest to the table." Nobody I ever work with here would ever bring in a sub with the ball, and we still do a lot of 2-person at the varsity level. One of those things I never really questioned, so my apologies to the poster. You are probably closer to the book in Ohio than we are.

Still, as long as only one official is bringing in the subs, it really doesn't matter who does it.

At least for varsity games it is extremely rare (outside of the Chicago Public Schools) to do a 2 Person game. We have other officials that can see the sub. And for the record we teach this mechanic not because it is in the NF Manual (as we do not use such manual), it is because that seems to work best. And who brings the attention to the crew is not a sticking point around here or at least with me. I just want the sub to be brought in. But the initial communication or whistle blowing should come from the closest to the table. Then if we are in transition in 3 Person, we pass the C for the rest of the substitution responsibility.

Peace

I'm pretty certain for 3 we do it exactly as you. I've been to a number of camps (HS and NCAAM) and the procedure there is exactly what I'm used to.

The guys I work with - we whistle in all subs. Like I said, in 2-person with the guys I work with, it's the one without the basketball that does this. If I'm standing trail with the ball tableside, the lead will be the one to get the sub with a whistle.

I'd be thrilled to work all 3-person, but the momentum for that has gone away with school funding being what it is.

If I was, all you say I am, wouldn't I be getting paid instead of volunteer?

If a "person" closely reads the rules/regulstions closely, the horn the timer uses is only supposed to be used for the signaling to end a quarter/half/game. It is actually supposed to be the scorer that is to signal for subs after those subs are at the table & properly reported in.

Same can be said if there is a blarge/error in the score or a question concerning the score or fouls, it's the scorer that is supposed to signal, not the timer.

I agree. It's an outrage that you're not being paid for your contributions to the CHS Eagles, their league, and basketball in general. An outrage, I tell ya!!! It's just another example of your local AD falling down on his duties. No wonder you have to do so much of his job. Maybe we can have a benefit for you, or sumthin' like that. Making sell ribbons. Or Livechseagle bracelets.

2) I also agree with that. It's not only an outrage, it's a travesty of the game that no one has ever given you your very own signaling device to follow the correct rules/regulations. An outrage AND a travesty, I tell ya!!! As of the posting of this response, I am starting up a campaign to raise the necessary funds to buy you the absolute best signaling device available. One that you can take home with you at night. In CHS Eagles' colors, of course. All donations can be sent to me, care of the location showing on my profile.

Please help send a signaling device to Chseagle before it's too late! Give 'til it hurts!

I do not mind volunteering my time, considering generally I can get a hot dog or two afterwards or maybe the rest of the popcorn that wasn't sold.

However, I do feel that if a person is actually getting paid, like the Varsity person is ($35 a night for 2 games), that they should be on the ball with all the current rules/regulations.

On any basketball night I average 3-4 games at the table, & 1-2 working as crowd control/security. I do it to support my alma mater (I know the question arises about neutrality) & to lessen the burden of having to find personnel to do table ops.

Last year, for the one game where I did Boys' Varsity Timer/Scoreboard I just happened to be in the right place at the right time, as the regular person did not show up that night.

For the 4A Regional I've done the past couple of years, I have done that to lessen the burden of those running ir to give them a truly neutral person that has no vested interest in the schools participating. Sure I may of gotten paid there but to me that was just an additional perk.

I do table ops cause I enjoy doing it & it gives me time away from the house, especially since I am unable to find any long term/permanent employment.

Are you saying that you can have the ball and be right beside the table, but the lead official all the way down on the endline will blow his/her whistle to bring in a sub that is closer to you?

Yes. The person without the ball handles subs and holds up the game until they're in / out. The person with the ball gets the thrower-in ready and waits for the subs to be completed.

If we're working 3-person and I'm the trail tableside administering a throw-in, the center opposite will get the subs.

Seriously - that's how all the people I work with here have done it.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, it's consistent.

go figure

The reasoning for that has been my health, & the region I live in seems to discriminate against those that speak English only.

Periodically, have I seen the official with the ball near the table call in subs. I've seen the official on the endline with the ball call in subs, although another official was closer to the table.

9.6% 14.5% 22% and 8.7% Those are the National unemployment rate, unemployment rate for disabled people, 'real' unemployment rate and the state unemployment rate in Washington state
THOSE are the figures I assume you were talking about. Because I am sure you would not be disparaging someone who is experiencing personal difficulties in employment in times like these.