Question @Drive to the Basket

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Da Official

5. Does it matter that the score is tied with 10 seconds left in the game?

Why would you think this situation would matter on how you would make any call? If it's a foul, call it. If not, don't. Period.

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Why would you think this situation would matter on how you would make any call? If it's a foul, call it. If not, don't. Period.

Mark, I am of the philiosphy score and time is irrelevant and a foul is a foul but I've seen plays at the end of tied ball games that do not get a whistle on so I guess the game can be settled in OT. I just threw the question out there to get feedback...I know I'm not the only one who has ever seen a play like that...?

[jeffpea]

imho, contact falls into one of three catagories:

incidental
marginal
contact that warrants a foul

sounds to me like the initial contact you've described is either incidental or marginal (it certainly was not contact that warranted a foul). a good official should see the start, development, and finish of the play...THEN decide if you have a foul. the higher the level of play, the more i believe you need to hold your whistle before blowing (or not blowing).

at the NCAA level, John Adams has said if contact initiated by the defender interrupts the rhythm, speed, balance, or quickness (RSBQ) of the offensive player...it IS a foul. your description does not meet that standard.

as for the "questionable contact on the shot", i don't think i have a foul either (at least not as you've described).

mbyron is right - contact is not additive.

i am certainly NOT going to call a foul in the last :10 of a game if the contact is "questionable".

hope that helps...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Why would you think this situation would matter on how you would make any call? If it's a foul, call it. If not, don't. Period.

Someone has inhabited Mark's keyboard. Did you miss the part about the game being tied?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Someone has inhabited Mark's keyboard. Did you miss the part about the game being tied?

In that situation, you're going to be able to call a T on the coach who doesn't "get" the call for his reaction, in which case you will keep having lane violations on free throw misses. Sheesh - isn't it obvious?

BTW - in the 3rd and 4th grade levels of our local rec league, we have ties all the time (usually something like 6-6 or 8-8) but we don't have overtimes. The game is just declared a tie. I think I might suggest making this an NF rule.