OT-Article on Questionable Calls in NBA

[BktBallRef]

Did anyone see the 3 second call on Garnett in the 3rd period tonight? Boston inbounds the ball after a Laker basket, Rondo dribble up the floor. At the 20 second mark on the shot clock, "Tweet," 3 seconds.

The call was correct. Does anyone know why?

[bainsey]

Was that the play where Mike Breen was saying the ball was two seconds in the backcourt? I have to give credit for the play-by-play guy actually knowing the rule.

I guess there's no "benefit of the doubt" if you're backing out of the lane on the three-count, at least not that time.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Warner Wolf does.

That's taking me back. Thanks JAR!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Warner Wolf does.

Originally Posted by grunewar

That's taking me back.

"Let's go to the videotape."

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Did anyone see the 3 second call on Garnett in the 3rd period tonight? Boston inbounds the ball after a Laker basket, Rondo dribble up the floor. At the 20 second mark on the shot clock, "Tweet," 3 seconds.

The call was correct. Does anyone know why?

Why was it correct?

I really didn't mind it that much, as I thought it was a better call than calling a foul on Garnett for displacing Gasol as violently as he did...but I'm not sure that makes the call "correct".

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Why was it correct?

I really didn't mind it that much, as I thought it was a better call than calling a foul on Garnett for displacing Gasol as violently as he did...but I'm not sure that makes the call "correct".

Didn't see that part of the game....was the initial pass to Rondo in the frontcount?

(I checked the NBA rules and their 3-second call does match the NCAA/NFHS rule of only applying when the ball is in team control in the frontcourt.)

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Why was it correct?

I really didn't mind it that much, as I thought it was a better call than calling a foul on Garnett for displacing Gasol as violently as he did...but I'm not sure that makes the call "correct".

The 24 second clock wasn't started until AFTER Rondo crossed the division line. We ran it back and watched it. I guess we aren't the only ones with slow clock operators.

And I agree. I told my two sons he was in there the entire 4 seconds but he got the call instead of the foul that coulda/woulda/shoulda been called.

[jeffpea]

Coach Rivers and Coach Jackson -- tell your players to STOP FOULING!!!!!! It makes for a much better game.

It is clearly a sign of bad coaching if you're best players continue to foul the other team so often they have to sit down and not play!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

Coach Rivers and Coach Jackson -- tell your players to STOP FOULING!!!!!! It makes for a much better game.

It is clearly a sign of bad coaching if you're best players continue to foul the other team so often they have to sit down and not play!

Sigh....

It's the NBE, Jeff. The players do NOT have to adjust to the officials. The officials are supposed to adjust to the players. I think that's written somewhere in the players' bargaining agreement with the league. From the whining that goes on during just about every call, it almost has to be.

NBE officials get their direction as to how the league wants their games called from head office. Every freaking call is monitored and graded. But when the officials do call the games the way they're directed to, everybody blames the officials instead of the league. Go figure.

[Ptflea2]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

Coach Rivers and Coach Jackson -- tell your players to STOP FOULING!!!!!! It makes for a much better game.

It is clearly a sign of bad coaching if you're best players continue to foul the other team so often they have to sit down and not play!

I gotta agree with Jurassic on this one. Jeff, your statement could be said to any local JV coach and make sense, but in the NBA, sadly, your words will fall on deaf ears.

[BktBallRef]

I think jeffpea's point is that players keep whining about being in foul trouble. Rivers and Jackson need to stop empowering that and tell them, to shut up and play. I agree.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I think jeffpea's point is that players keep whining about being in foul trouble. Rivers and Jackson need to stop empowering that and tell them, to shut up and play. I agree.

That is exactly what he was saying. They are acting like the actions of the players are totally unwarranted for fouls. And when those types of contacts are not called, then the players are complaining the officials are not calling fouls. Officials cannot win no matter what we call or do not call. The NBA officials are just dealing with it on a different level, we just deal with on a lower scale.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Officials cannot win no matter what we call or do not call. The NBA officials are just dealing with it on a different level, we just deal with on a lower scale.

And that's exactly what I was saying also.

Maybe I shoulda used that stoopid blue font.


Naw, don't think so.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Maybe I should used that stoopid blue font. Naw, don't think so.

Thank you very much. I really wish that the Forum never heard of the "stoopid blue font". I'm sure that many would agree with me. Maybe we should have a poll?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And that's exactly what I was saying also.

Maybe I shoulda used that stoopid blue font.


Naw, don't think so.

I know what you were saying. But this has nothing to do with the league; it has to do with player's mentality in today's games at all levels. These guys are just higher profile. How many times do we hear that we called too many fouls but players are being called for very obvious things? It is like the number of fouls is the issue, not what the players are doing to be called for fouls.

Peace