OT-Article on Questionable Calls in NBA

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And I would rather see the players adjust and stop fouling.

Heresy!

Heresy, I tell ya!

It's easier to blame the officials.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

In any NBA final game:
1) the losing team and their local papers & fans will say that they lost because of the officials.
2) the winning team and their local papers and fans will say they won in spite of the officials.

This can apply at ANY level.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AustinRef

I am definitely in the wrong profession if that guy got paid to write that article. Great piece of journalism!

That ain't journalism, Tex. It's just an opinion piece, nothing more.

I'm open-minded to eliminating the foul-out rule in favor of two-shots-and-the-ball, etc., but I still have a feeling that, were it put in place, contact would signficantly increase, and we would all regret such a move.

The thing that threw me off last night, though, was the block call on the play shown in the photo. All I could see was LGP, and it just makes it more difficult for us when we make charge calls on obvious plays like that.

And the writer wants a no-call? Why should the defense get punished for having LGP and getting leveled?

[grunewar]

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

That ain't journalism, Tex. It's just an opinion piece, nothing more.

I'm open-minded to eliminating the foul-out rule in favor of two-shots-and-the-ball, etc., but I still have a feeling that, were it put in place, contact would signficantly increase, and we would all regret such a move.

The thing that threw me off last night, though, was the block call on the play shown in the photo. All I could see was LGP, and it just makes it more difficult for us when we make charge calls on obvious plays like that.

And the writer wants a no-call? Why should the defense get punished for having LGP and getting leveled?

Are you talking about the play in the photo with Derek Fisher and Ray Allen? Cause Bill Kennedy most definitely came in with a charge from the lead position.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And I would rather see the players adjust and stop fouling.

Well if we don't call it then it is not a foul!!!

[grunewar]

from the article:

"A dribbler drives, a defender steps in, both fall, and one or the other is charged with a foul, even though, if a thousand refs were polled, 500 would call "block" and 500 would call "charge."

OK, so maybe it would be 501-499 here.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by grunewar

from the article:

"A dribbler drives, a defender steps in, both fall, and one or the other is charged with a foul, even though, if a thousand refs were polled, 500 would call "block" and 500 would call "charge."

OK, so maybe it would be 501-499 here.

If the dribbler was Kobe Bryant and the defender was Joe Benchwarmer, the poll of NBA refs goes up to 999 "blocks" and "Joey Crawford".

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Are you talking about the play in the photo with Derek Fisher and Ray Allen? Cause Bill Kennedy most definitely came in with a charge from the lead position.

I could have my plays crossed. There was one similar to the photo where there was clearly LGP, yet a block was called on the Lakers. It really got to me, and I'm a Celtics' fan.

When such things are called blocks, it makes it more difficult on us, especially fighting the mentality that charging fouls rip off the offense. It's almost like a charge is some silly taboo in some people's minds.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

Why do they bother sending tape? Do they think the league office doesn't have a copy?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Why do they bother sending tape? Do they think the league office doesn't have a copy?

These "public announcements" by coaches and players are getting totally out of hand. Phil Jackson's been doing it like, forever. Just trying to "game" the officials and get that one critical call to go their way........

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

These "public announcements" by coaches and players are getting totally out of hand. Phil Jackson's been doing it like, forever. Just trying to "game" the officials and get that one critical call to go their way........

I know. I just thought it was funny that they're sending a tape. It's like giving Jay Leno a car.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I could have my plays crossed. There was one similar to the photo where there was clearly LGP, yet a block was called on the Lakers. It really got to me, and I'm a Celtics' fan.

When such things are called blocks, it makes it more difficult on us, especially fighting the mentality that charging fouls rip off the offense. It's almost like a charge is some silly taboo in some people's minds.

You're probably thinking about the play where Derek Fisher tried to take a charge on Rajon Rando. I believe it was on a fastbreak. I agree that Fisher had his torso in Rando's straight line path, but at the last second, Rando stepped and jump to the side and Fisher took the contact more in the side. I agreed with the blocking foul that was called.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

Videotape? Do people still use those?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Videotape? Do people still use those?

Warner Wolf does.