OT-Article on Questionable Calls in NBA

[Kingsman1288]

Questionable calls have marred NBA Finals with Lakers, Celtics - Jack McCallum - SI.com

This guy obviously knows what he is talking about It's a good read if you're looking to laugh.

[Jurassic Referee]

Take this to the bank....

In any NBA final game:
1) the losing team and their local papers & fans will say that they lost because of the officials.
2) the winning team and their local papers and fans will say they won in spite of the officials.

The obvious solution is to play the damn game without officials and run a freaking poll every time something questionable happens. Or maybe let the players call their own fouls and violations.

No stoopid blue text intended either.

[Judtech]

I like the 'call your own' concept. The question then becomes does the offense or defense call it? I played at parks/gyms where it was the offense and some were defense. I think OFFENSE would be could for the NBA, that way the players could still whine, and we would know who the 'soft' players really are!

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

In any NBA final game:
1) the losing team and their local papers & fans will say that they lost because of the officials.
2) the winning team and their local papers and fans will say they won in spite of the officials.

This can apply at ANY level.

[grunewar]

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

[Adam]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

Why do they bother sending tape? Do they think the league office doesn't have a copy?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Why do they bother sending tape? Do they think the league office doesn't have a copy?

These "public announcements" by coaches and players are getting totally out of hand. Phil Jackson's been doing it like, forever. Just trying to "game" the officials and get that one critical call to go their way........

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by grunewar

And so it goes......

Doc Rivers of Boston Celtics complains about refereeing, sends videotape to league office - ESPN

Videotape? Do people still use those?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Videotape? Do people still use those?

Warner Wolf does.

[MD Longhorn]

I've been a proponent of getting rid of "fouling out" at all levels for years. There is an inherent randomness in foul calls that sometimes causes a guy who's only going to foul 3-4 times in a game to get 2 of those very early - at which point they sit, and this alters the strategy of that team to a degree FAR out of whack from the severity of a single foul. It's too big a penalty. A 2nd foul on your star in the first quarter is FAR more damaging than a 5th foul late in the 4th. That shouldn't be.

Instead - any foul over the limit (whatever that is at your level) is penalized as follows: Non-shooting, it's 1 FT and the ball. Shooting, 2 and the ball. Shooting a 3, 3 and the ball. This penalizes a team for letting a player over-foul, but doesn't completely change the complexion of a game when a player gets 2 in the 1st or 3 in the first half.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I've been a proponent of getting rid of "fouling out" at all levels for years. There is an inherent randomness in foul calls that sometimes causes a guy who's only going to foul 3-4 times in a game to get 2 of those very early - at which point they sit, and this alters the strategy of that team to a degree FAR out of whack from the severity of a single foul. It's too big a penalty. A 2nd foul on your star in the first quarter is FAR more damaging than a 5th foul late in the 4th. That shouldn't be.

Instead - any foul over the limit (whatever that is at your level) is penalized as follows: Non-shooting, it's 1 FT and the ball. Shooting, 2 and the ball. Shooting a 3, 3 and the ball. This penalizes a team for letting a player over-foul, but doesn't completely change the complexion of a game when a player gets 2 in the 1st or 3 in the first half.

Perhaps the player shouldn't foul?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

Perhaps the player shouldn't foul?

Your point?

Of course they "shouldn't" foul. There's a penalty when they do. I would just rather see teams be able to play their game, see players play the way they normally play. I think it takes away from the game and penalizes a team FAR more than the weight of the transgression when a called foul happens to be an individual's 2nd early foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Your point?

Of course they "shouldn't" foul. There's a penalty when they do. I would just rather see teams be able to play their game, see players play the way they normally play. I think it takes away from the game and penalizes a team FAR more than the weight of the transgression when a called foul happens to be an individual's 2nd early foul.

And I would rather see the players adjust and stop fouling.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And I would rather see the players adjust and stop fouling.

Heresy!

Heresy, I tell ya!

It's easier to blame the officials.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And I would rather see the players adjust and stop fouling.

Well if we don't call it then it is not a foul!!!