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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Of course not. They expect the Lead to be behind all plays. Which is why they call it the Lead position.

I should use blue font somewhere to get the point across.

Peace

What if a guy releases early, or snowbirds and never comes down at all? You get ahead of them too? Gee, Rut, I stand corrected. You are perfect.

For the lead to always be (or want to be) physically in the lead of the play, is not only impossible, but counterproductive.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What if a guy releases early, or snowbirds and never comes down at all? You get ahead of them too? Gee, Rut, I stand corrected. You are perfect.

For the lead to always be (or want to be) physically in the lead of the play, is not only impossible, but counterproductive.

You are still stuck on this. Really?

Here is your exact question:

So you're saying that if you're the trail in two man, and the ball is knocked loose at the division line into the backcourt, then B1 and B2 sprint after it and one picks it up at the 3 pt line and takes it to the basket, you would outrun everybody and get ahead and "receive the play" as the new lead?

Where did use the word “always” in this conversation? Can you show one quote where I said “always” in this situation? And it is not hard considering that a player still has to pick up the ball, then dribble and make a move to the basket. They are not always going in a straight line to the basket. It is not that hard if you can sprint. If you cannot run, then maybe it might be an issue. I can run and know others that can run and this is not a major issue for me. I did it today in many situations at an international player’s showcase where the players were all former college players trying to get pro jobs and are good athletes. I was able on many situations to beat the play to the end line. And this was on a college court and much faster than high school players. We know you are not talking about college players.

Also it is not counterproductive or the mechanics would require us to not be there most of the time. If you get beat you can get angles in other places, but there is a reason the mechanics wants you ahead of the play in most situations. If I recall (and I really have not been thinking about this conversation since you just brought it up), you said you could not ever get to the end line. Now maybe that says something about your physical abilities or maybe your fitness level. Because I saw many officials last weekend get to the spot several times.

Then again, you are just another ref, so I would not expect you to get that concept at all. You are still stuck on something I said months ago and worried about what I think about it today. Worry about what you do and hope it works out for you. I do what works for me and it definitely works for me.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is your exact question:

Where did use the word “always” in this conversation? Can you show one quote where I said “always” in this situation?

Never used the word always, but without knowing exactly where the steal occurred and where the players originally were, you still refer to it as "not that hard" and "not entirely difficult" so I just assumed a guy like you could always pull it off.

Enough already. I'm done. My apologies to the owner of the thread.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Never used the word always, but without knowing exactly where the steal occurred and where the players originally were, you still refer to it as "not that hard" and "not entirely difficult" so I just assumed a guy like you could always pull it off.

I am completely basing my comments on a complete and total lack of knowledge of the mechanics and situations.

Peace