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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 03:05pm
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Can the defender continue to defend anybody while on his butt in the middle of the floor? Then he was put at a disadvantage. Call the TC foul like you should.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 03:20pm
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Can the defender continue to defend anybody while on his butt in the middle of the floor? Then he was put at a disadvantage. Call the TC foul like you should.
Does he have to defend an opponent who is also on their butt, as pointed out in the original post of this thread?

Where is the disadvantage for ANYBODY in the situation where BOTH players are down?
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 03:27pm
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Does he have to defend an opponent who is also on their butt, as pointed out in the original post of this thread?

Where is the disadvantage for ANYBODY in the situation where BOTH players are down?
How many offensive players are on the floor? If it was a game of one on one you may have a point. But as I recall it is a game of 5 on 5, and the defender, who has every right to be wherever he can get to on the floor and guard whoever his heart desires has been relegated to a small amount of butt-space in the middle guarding the guy sitting on his chest. TC foul. Call it.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 03:58pm
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How many offensive players are on the floor? If it was a game of one on one you may have a point. But as I recall it is a game of 5 on 5, and the defender, who has every right to be wherever he can get to on the floor and guard whoever his heart desires has been relegated to a small amount of butt-space in the middle guarding the guy sitting on his chest. TC foul. Call it.
Your preference naturally. I disagree completely with your reasoning though. If both players are on the floor, neither has gained any advantage over the other player in any way that I can think of. It meets the criteria for incidental contact under rule 4-27 in all ways imo.

We'll have to agree to disagree.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 04:27pm
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Can the defender continue to defend anybody while on his butt in the middle of the floor? Then he was put at a disadvantage. Call the TC foul like you should.
Nope, he can't. And an offensive screener can't catch a pass if he gets knocked on his *** on a blind screen either.

And yet, by rule, it's incidental contact provied the screened opponent attempts to stop.

Rule it incidental contact just as the rule says you should.
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Old Fri May 14, 2010, 09:24pm
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The OP is almost exactly like CB play 10.6.11 Situation D. In both plays in Sit D, the CB play says this is a foul on A5.

Would this be considered a screen outside of A5's visual field? While it is true he is looking away from the defender, he is running blindly running down the court while looking directly behind him. It would seem to me that A5 should be expected to see the defender in this situation if he is paying attention.

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