Still Controversial...to the Defender

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by cmcramer

I would say that the vertical plane of the offensive player can change during this play. He can dribble or he can pivot...all while the hapless defender is in the air.

yeah, but if the defender truly IS completly cleanly vertical (I know, this rarely happens in this situation), we can't penalize the defender for merely jumping straight up in his own vertical plane. just my thoughts...

[cmcramer]

OP says defender is "way past vertical"

VBZebra - if you get a chance, read the thread I linked to the OP - this situation has been well discussed...

It's just that this play happened again this morning....and the defender was crying about it....as they usually do.

[vbzebra]

Originally Posted by cmcramer

OP says defender is "way past vertical"

VBZebra - if you get a chance, read the thread I linked to the OP - this situation has been well discussed...

It's just that this play happened again this morning....and the defender was crying about it....as they usually do.

will do, thanks! i hear ya on the last part too

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by vbzebra

yeah, but if the defender truly IS completly cleanly vertical (I know, this rarely happens in this situation), we can't penalize the defender for merely jumping straight up in his own vertical plane. just my thoughts...

+1

If the defender leaves his vertical plane, and comes crashing down on someone, it's on him.

[Tio]

I don't think you get this play right unless you referee the defense (as we should be doing). If the defender is moving horizontally into the offensive shooters space, defensive foul is the correct call. If the offensive player initiates the contact then you have a no-call or offense if the contact is severe. Be prepared to take a boatload of heat for getting this play right! Have faith that the film will validate your correct call.