Unapproachable Coach vs. Unapproachable Ref

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Da Official

While that was the highlight of my evening, what could I have done better here? Mind you I had no trouble with the guy before or after this incident. My thinking for the Technical is its obviously in the rulebook BUT sometimes experience is the best lesson....I'm sure the kid and the coach will wait for the official to call em in next time.

There is nothing you can do with an unreasonable individual. First of all "You better come to me right now and give me an explanation" was the way he felt he should talk to you. Well I am a grown *** man and my father died almost 15 years ago and he did not even talk to me that way.

You even seemed to make a public issue of the kid coming onto the court. And you then enforced the rule. I am not sure what else you could have done, because if you went to the coach he might have told you "Well you are the only official that cares....."

Peace

[Adam]

In a rec game, if the coach had been a peach all game, I might have followed up my T (on the coach) with "Coach, I asked you to hold on a second so I could inform my partner what was going on. In the mean time, you're not my coach or my wife, so you don't get to talk to me like one of your players."
If there was any indication that such a conversation would go sour, I'd do nothing.

[Da Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is nothing you can do with an unreasonable individual. First of all "You better come to me right now and give me an explanation" was the way he felt he should talk to you. Well I am a grown *** man and my father died almost 15 years ago and he did not even talk to me that way.

You even seemed to make a public issue of the kid coming onto the court. And you then enforced the rule. I am not sure what else you could have done, because if you went to the coach he might have told you "Well you are the only official that cares....."

Peace

Yeah I couldn't believe he said that....it was pretty unexpected...but I'm glad he did --it gave me experience.

Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few officials that officiate this league that would have made the call but I'm probably 1 of 3 officials that are actually trying to improve and go somewhere so I treat each game as the real thing. Crazy me.

[stripes]

what part of Utah are you from?

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Da Official

Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm one of the few officials that officiate this league that would have made the call but I'm probably 1 of 3 officials that are actually trying to improve and go somewhere so I treat each game as the real thing. Crazy me.

Don't get discouraged. I had a similar situation this past year in a middle school game.

During a throw-in, a defender clearly reached through the plane, which is rather frequent in a middle school game. I got the whistle, reported the warning to the table, informed the coach, and went back to make sure the kids knew what the infraction was and what it meant.

This particular coach didn't like the call. When I informed the coach, she wouldn't look me in the eye. When I asked if she understood it, her reply was, "Yeah, I understand it. I just don't agree with it. It's a seventh grade game."

After the game, I pondered that comment, and I came up with three reasons that call should be made:

1. It's just a warning (repeated offenses notwithstanding),
2. Breaking the plan puts the thrower-in at a disadvantage, and
3. If we DON'T call it, how will players learn not to do it?

Stick with the facts, and don't let emotions get in the way.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well I am a grown *** man and my father died almost 15 years ago and he did not even talk to me that way.

Rut:

It is obvious that you didn't have an Italian for a father, .

MTD, Sr.


P.S. My father passed ten years ago, and I bet our fathers are watching us from upstairs.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rut:

It is obvious that you didn't have an Italian for a father, .

MTD, Sr.

MTD, I grew up right next to an Italian neighborhood on the south side of Chicago and I had a lot of Italian friends (like Silvio and Silvario). You're right. That's the way their dads yelled, er, I mean talked.

You might get a kick out of this. Silvio had red hair and freckles, far from "typical" Italian looks.. All the guys used to say he looked just like his mailman. We never said it around him, because his brother worked for the mob. We were told his job was doping racehorses. Not kidding.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rut:

It is obvious that you didn't have an Italian for a father, .

MTD, Sr.


P.S. My father passed ten years ago, and I bet our fathers are watching us from upstairs.

Let me let you in on a little secret. My father was not Italian, but my father did not need to say anything to get a point across. I will let you figure out what that means.

Peace