NCAA Rules that NFHS or State Associations should try out?

[BktBallRef]

Good grief.

You will find that not everyone in the real world operates in an orderly, proficient, military manner.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Good grief.

You will find that not everyone in the real world operates in an orderly, proficient, military manner.

Litotes, IMHO.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Different people have different upbringings, or different standards. If a person can't adapt then that person needs to be institutionalized.

Might be the most unintentionally apropos thing ever posted on this board. At worst, it's tied for first.

[refiator]

I don't understand why anyone would want to institute a rule such as stopping the clock in the last minute. Why change the rules for only a portion of a game? If that's the case, how about no traveling in the first quarter, only call fouls of someone hits the floor, and instant reply on all double whistles. Call me a purist, but I don't see why the last minute...2 minutes....8 minutes...whatever...needs to be treated any differently form the rest of the game. The NBA is ruining the game of basketball.

[APG]

Originally Posted by refiator

I don't understand why anyone would want to institute a rule such as stopping the clock in the last minute. Why change the rules for only a portion of a game? If that's the case, how about no traveling in the first quarter, only call fouls of someone hits the floor, and instant reply on all double whistles. Call me a purist, but I don't see why the last minute...2 minutes....8 minutes...whatever...needs to be treated any differently form the rest of the game. The NBA is ruining the game of basketball.

To be fair, every major rules code of basketball except for NFHS basketball has the clock stop after a field goal under a certain time limit (NBA-final minute of 1-3 quarters and final two minutes of 4th/OT(s). NCAA-final minute of 2nd half/OT(s). FIBA-final two minutes of 4th/OT(s)). Not sure how this is the NBA "ruining the game of basketball." Obviously, the powers that be under different organizations don't think so.

And it's not like other sports don't have different timing rules for different periods...think the NFL and NCAA football.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Might be the most unintentionally apropos thing ever posted on this board. At worst, it's tied for first.

Apparently no one gets the joke considering the emotes I posted afterwards.

I was saying, in other words, I've learned to adapt.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by refiator

I don't understand why anyone would want to institute a rule such as stopping the clock in the last minute. Why change the rules for only a portion of a game? If that's the case, how about no traveling in the first quarter, only call fouls of someone hits the floor, and instant reply on all double whistles. Call me a purist, but I don't see why the last minute...2 minutes....8 minutes...whatever...needs to be treated any differently form the rest of the game. The NBA is ruining the game of basketball.

It really makes perfect sense. No one really cares if the ball bounces away from a thrower or if a thrower deliberately wastes a couple of seconds when there is 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter....those 2-3 seconds are irrelevant. However, if a team is up by 3 with 25 seconds to go, 2-3 seconds can make the difference. Stopping the clock on the make and resuming on the throwin completion simply eliminates the opportunity for a team to unfairly burn a few extra seconds when they really matter.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Every major rules code of basketball except for NFHS basketball has the clock stop after a field goal under a certain time limit.

Why not the NFHS?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Why not the NFHS?

The clock would have to be reset after every made basket, that is why.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The clock would have to be reset after every made basket, that is why.

What he said...without the smiley!

The colleges and pros have trained, mature table crews. They also have instant replay available at the D1 and pro levels to get the clock right. In high school you never know what or who you're going to get as a timer. It would be freaking pandemonium in some high school games.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What he said...without the smiley!

The colleges and pros have trained, mature table crews. They also have instant replay available at the D1 and pro levels to get the clock right. In high school you never know what or who you're going to get as a timer. It would be freaking pandemonium in some high school games.

Aren't Pro & College Table Crews also trained officials as well?

Majority of the HS Table Crews either have a love of the game & the team & work the table as a show of support or to them it's an extra paycheck.

However not every HS Table Crew even tries to have an understanding of the rules except for the bare minimum they need to know.

With the continual addition of new rules or changes of those rules, it can be hard for a person to know about those changes unless they, themselves, take the initiative to learn.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Aren't Pro & College Table Crews also trained officials as well?

Not necessarily. I know some people that have been at the table in certain situations are officials at lower levels, but that does not mean that is the case in all situations or a mandate.

Originally Posted by chseagle

Majority of the HS Table Crews either have a love of the game & the team & work the table as a show of support or to them it's an extra paycheck.

However not every HS Table Crew even tries to have an understanding of the rules except for the bare minimum they need to know.

With the continual addition of new rules or changes of those rules, it can be hard for a person to know about those changes unless they, themselves, take the initiative to learn.

And this is why the rules are the way they are. People that run the table would be a problem if they are not trained or paying attention. Not so say that the rules will never change, but a lot of new rules table people are often unaware.

Peace

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not necessarily. I know some people that have been at the table in certain situations are officials at lower levels, but that does not mean that is the case in all situations or a mandate.

And this is why the rules are the way they are. People that run the table would be a problem if they are not trained or paying attention. Not so say that the rules will never change, but a lot of new rules table people are often unaware.

Peace

Actually during the championship games for WIAA instant replay can be used for clock reset.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What he said...without the smiley!

The colleges and pros have trained, mature table crews. They also have instant replay available at the D1 and pro levels to get the clock right. In high school you never know what or who you're going to get as a timer. It would be freaking pandemonium in some high school games.

It's for reasons like this I was thinking of a similar program for Table Crew as for the floor officials. This way everyone is on equal footing when it comes to rules/regulations.

[BktBallRef]

Clueless.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Actually during the championship games for WIAA instant replay can be used for clock reset.

This a NF rule that allows states to use instant replay if they like. Many states have not gone that route with instant replay. I am also not talking about what goes on in a rare case. The vast majority of games are run in local high schools with volunteers or people who support the local school or team. These are not highly paid, highly accountable positions. At least that is not the case when many lower level games in my area are run by players on the varsity team that are required or paid to work a freshman game for a couple of hours, but is paying more attention to their cell phone than the game. I am sure the State Finals in your area has adults and possibly people who run the clock for the venue or has a more extensive background at the college or pro level.

Peace