You make the call

[Tio]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Now keeping in mind that I've only got that one angle on the call so i can't see how much contact occurs with the defenders chest/face/upper torso before he starts to bail out (and this does look like a bail out).

I think you've got to call a foul on this unless your going to warn the d for flopping. You can't let kids swing to clear off and his eblows are sending kids to the floor then that has to be a foul. I haven't got a flagrant because he's not head hunting and is pivoting to rip through a tight defender who was creating some contact too.

I hate the idea or the comments made by Rautins about questionable calls on good players. You know what, if you build your team around a couple of stars or a style of play you need a certain person to operate then you roll the dice with that player getting hurt and staying out of foul trouble. Refs shouldn't have to feel like their punishing teams because so-so is in foul trouble.

I can appreciate the coaches frustration especially since if you wathced the other quarterfinal games and semi's particualrly the Carlton games there was way more contact in all sorts of ways being nocalled.

Do you think the player laying on the ground grabbing his head is a symptom of flopping?

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by Tio

Do you think the player laying on the ground grabbing his head is a symptom of flopping?

1- At no point during the video is the player grabbing his head.

2 - I've reffed enough soccer kids to appreciate a full sell job as opposed to a momentary one.

3 - The way he falls (back and legs first, followed by head directly backwards) after a shot to the upper torso and head from the side doesn't align enough for me to believe he was being knocked off his spot as much as he was bailing out away from the contact.

But as i said I'm not there in real life and am unable to see how much contact is occuring before he falls back so from this vantage point I've got an offensive foul.